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The Fallacy of Biblical Stories: Jonah & the Whale

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"Anything you don't understand, you attribute to God. God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did it." --- Carl Sagan, Contact

For this part of the series, I will be examining the story of Jonah and the Whale (or is it a "big fish?"). On the surface, this story seems like it came directly from a children's fairy tale book. Popular culture portrays Jonah being swallowed by a whale. Some religious texts use the term "great fish" instead of whale. But the idea of being swallowed by a whale is one which has been a part of popular culture for decades, probably most notably, in the 1940 Walt Disney animated feature "Pinocchio." Other media has portrayed the scenario in different forms one way or another. But I'm going to look at the biblical version of being swallowed by whale and see if the evidence actually makes this tale plausible or not. So let's briefly look at the story as follows:

In the Book of Jonah, God orders Jonah to go to Nineveh (why does God always need a middleman to do his dirty work?) to preach to the people there and warn them that God is pissed off at them. Apparently God hates it when his mortals are having fun. But Jonah, feeling a little rebellious (and has no love for Nineveh to begin with) did the biblical version of flipping God off by not following God's instructions and instead sailed to Tarshish. Naturally, God becomes irate about it and overreacts as usual by creating a big storm at sea, which threatened the ship Jonah's was on and its crew. The crew become convinced it is not a natural storm (this was before meteorology became a science) and decided to toss Jonah overboard after drawing lots (and people say Carnival cruises are bad?). Afterwards, a "great fish" (other sources say "big fish" or "huge fish") appears and swallows Jonah whole, where Jonah spends 3 days and 3 nights in the whale/fish belly. During that time, the smell of fish becomes too much for Jonah to bear. So he prays and repents to God, after which the whale vomits Jonah out. After Jonah falls in line, he fulfills God's earlier command and travels to Nineveh.

So that's the gist of it. Now lets look at the circumstances surrounding the story and examine the evidence to determine if this story is hard to swallow (cue bad pun groans) or not.

1. Was it a whale or a "great fish?" : This is an important distinction to make, as whales and fish can be vastly different sizes. They must also be large enough to swallow an adult human male whole, without chewing him up. According to Jean Paul Morel, director of the French archaeological team at Carthage Byrsa, the average height of a male in biblical times was approximately 5' 6" tall, give or take 2 inches. Granted, there are other factors to consider for height. But to keep it simple, we'll use the 5" 6" as a baseline. Let's start by assuming it's an actual whale in the story. Most whales are generally incapable of swallowing a human and will not include humans in their diet.

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The largest whale (and largest animal) in the world is the blue whale , capable of growing over 100' long. These enormous mammals have a mouth capable of taking in a human. But it's esophagus is too small to swallow a human whole. Not to mention Jonah would likely be crushed by the mouth or baleen of a blue whale when it closes its mouth, assuming it didn't spit Jonah back out. Even if Jonah did survive that, he would quickly reach crush depth when the whale submerged. The second largest whale in the world is the sperm whale, reaching a length of over 60'. Sperm whale s typically feed on cephalopods and not humans. They must dive deep to feed and only surface to breathe, usually for about 10 minutes. Jonah would have to have bad timing to be thrown overboard only to be swallowed by a sperm whale. However, sperm whales do have large throats for swallowing and can be capable of swallowing a human whole . But a sperm whale has 4 stomachs full of digestive enzymes and no air (except for methane). So if Jonah was swallowed by a sperm whale, he would basically suffocate before being digested, which is precisely what does NOT happen in the biblical story . What about a humpback whale? They can grow to almost 60' long and have a maw capable of sucking in 20,000 liters of water-definitely capable of sucking in Jonah. But their esophagus is too small to swallow a human or other larger marine animal. They are filter feeders and will likely spit a human out.

If we assume the aquatic beastie in question is a fish, then it too must be capable of swallowing a tasty human. The whale shark is the largest fish in the world. It can measures up to 40' long. The largest confirmed length was 62' (talk about the catch of the day). It's mouth can be 5.1' to 5.6' across. That seems to be within the Jonah swallowing range. The whale shark is also a filter feeder. So it doesn't have teeth for man-chewing. So far, it fits the story: a big fish with a big mouth and no teeth. Check! Here is where it falls apart though: a whale shark esophagus only measures several inches across . Which means it is incapable of swallowing a human. According to an article in Smithsonian Magazine , a whale shark closes its mouth around larger fish and would probably spit a person out if it did swallow someone. They also tend to be picky eaters and will refuse man-meat. Also, their feeding habitat is not in the Mediterranean Sea, where Jonah would have sailed. The second largest fish in the world, the basking shark , can also reach lengths up to 40' long and live within temperate zones and along coasts, including the Mediterranean. However, like the whale shark, the basking shark is also a filter feeder and only has a mouth size of 1 meter, less than your average Jonah. So it too is unlikely to make a meal of Jonah. It's also non-aggressive and generally calm around humans. The third largest fish in the world is the Great White Shark. While the Great White can reach a length of up to 20', their rows of serrated teeth will ensure Jonah is swallowed in chunks, rather than whole. Based on the characteristics and anatomy of these 3 large fish types, it is unlikely that any of them would be capable of swallowing Jonah whole.

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2. No confirmation of whales/fish swallowing humans whole : Aside from the bible, there is no proof or confirmation of Jonah (or anyone) ever being swallowed by a whale/fish, much less living through it. There are a few old stories of people (see: James Bartley ) being swallowed by whales and living to tell the tale. However, like the Jonah story, there is no confirmation or proof of this ever happening. Such stories, while dramatic and entertaining in their own right, are spurious at best.

So there it is. I looked at the 3 largest species of whale and the 3 largest species of fish to determine if Jonah could have been swallowed, lived, and then be regurgitated. Out of all 6 aquatic animals, only the sperm whale is physically capable of swallowing a human whole. And if Jonah did take the gullet ride, he would have died in short order by the lack of breathable air, the pressure or weight of the water and other gastric contents pushing on him, and the travel through the digestive tract and digestive enzymes which probably would have given the whale some serious indigestion. On top of that, there is nothing to collaborate the biblical story. Therefore, it is extremely unlikely Jonah was swallowed whole and escaped relatively unscathed to tell the tale. I think most theists would agree this story is too fantastic to be taken literally and is meant as an allegory.
 
Even for biblical stories, this one is quite 'hard to swallow.' ;)
The absurdity levels for this story is off the charts, even compared to other biblical stories.
 

The Fallacy of Biblical Stories: Jonah & the Whale​




Most biblical stories can't be taken literally. They are best understood as merely responses to the questions of precocious children. Anything beyond that and they cease to even have any didactic value.


 

The Fallacy of Biblical Stories: Jonah & the Whale​




Most biblical stories can't be taken literally. They are best understood as merely responses to the questions of precocious children. Anything beyond that and they cease to be useful.
Yes, but there are those who do take biblical stories literally, which requires quite the cognitive disconnect. Or what it boils down to is lazy thinking and a need to hold onto a belief, no matter how illogical it might be.
 
Even for biblical stories, this one is quite 'hard to swallow.' ;)
The absurdity levels for this story is off the charts, even compared to other biblical stories.
We're probably right in saying that the story of Jonah is fictional.

Jonah is about how the priests from India had to be told to preach to the remnant of Jericho that were living in the hills.
 
 
Yes, but there are those who do take biblical stories literally, which requires quite the cognitive disconnect. Or what it boils down to is lazy thinking and a need to hold onto a belief, no matter how illogical it might be.
I think part of the problem is that, largely through their societal indoctrination, people have been mislead to believe in the bible long before they ever had a chance to read it with an unbiased mind. Even the word "bible" itself is defined as some sort of final authority on whatever the subject of it's contents. The Shooter's Bible. The Plumber's Bible. The Comedy Bible. The Fisherman's Bible. The word is pregnant with ascendancy. But I suspect that if a person were told nothing about it until they reached the age of reason, were handed a King James without the title on the cover, and asked to read it, it would immediately present itself as a book of children's tales, meant to appease an overly curious child about the origins of existence. No educated, open minded young adult could possibly identify it as the "word of god" without it carrying the imprimatur of the word "bible" on its cover.
 
I think part of the problem is that, largely through their societal indoctrination, people have been mislead to believe in the bible long before they ever had a chance to read it with an unbiased mind. Even the word "bible" itself is defined as some sort of final authority on whatever the subject of it's contents. The Shooter's Bible. The Plumber's Bible. The Comedy Bible. The Fisherman's Bible. The word is pregnant with ascendancy. But I suspect that if a person were told nothing about it until they reached the age of reason, were handed a King James without the title on the cover, and asked to read it, it would immediately present itself as a book of children's tales, meant to appease an overly curious child about the origins of existence. No educated, open minded young adult could possibly identify it as the "word of god" without it carrying the imprimatur of the word "bible" on its cover.
There are those who can recognize biblical stories as mere parables and tales and those who cannot and believe they are literal.
 
It's not so absurd.

It's not that big of a miracle, just need a sperm whale.
I did address the issues associated with a sperm whale in the article. The blue whale too, which is even bigger.
 
Given the absurdity of the story, it's safe to say quite certainly.
Daniel is my favorite puzzle. Did the potency need somewhere to go, or was there no one like Daniel and in shame the priests fabricated their visions and prophesy into the story?

I think, that because the Gospels are first hand accounts it follows, that Daniel is also, but that is a weak proof, in fact no proof, and not enough evidence to suggest a conclusion.
 
Yup.

Magic is around, 2000 years ago we were a planet of sorcerers, the magicians of Egypt, Rome, India and the Americas had real powers.

Instead we have been replaced by Christianity, Islam and Science.
 
Yup.

Magic is around, 2000 years ago we were a planet of sorcerers, the magicians of Egypt, Rome, India and the Americas had real powers.

Instead we have been replaced by Christianity, Islam and Science.
I'll take science. After all, any sufficiently advanced science would seem like "magic."
 
That tends to be the go to answer. That or "God did it."
God or god.

Any demigod could do the trick, the whale fasted and had little stomach acid, oxygenate the brain through the whale intestine, but who would know how many days? So we find omnipresent point of view, unless Jonah told his story and checked a calendar when he checked in to Nineveh.

I don't think there's record of any Nineveh having converted, so we assume the story is about Israel and the whale part fictional.
 
I'll take science. After all, any sufficiently advanced science would seem like "magic."
That's why we have science, you don't entertain other ideas.

Science is given by God, Christianity, Darwin, Newton, Galileo.
 
Even for biblical stories, this one is quite 'hard to swallow.' ;)
The absurdity levels for this story is off the charts, even compared to other biblical stories.

Disclaimer: Not taking a position, just find Jonah interesting because I see similarities in my own life experience as an unwilling pawn in God's game with an acute sense I am where God placed me, doing what he intends me to do, like it or not, and I don't, much.

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"...36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.

37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

38 Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee.

39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:

40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

41 The men of Nineveh shall rise in judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: because they repented at the preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a greater than Jonas is here..."
 
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Daniel is my favorite puzzle. Did the potency need somewhere to go, or was there no one like Daniel and in shame the priests fabricated their visions and prophesy into the story?

I think, that because the Gospels are first hand accounts it follows, that Daniel is also, but that is a weak proof, in fact no proof, and not enough evidence to suggest a conclusion.
Well, currently it is thought that Daniel was written between 161 bce and 165 bce. It uses Persian loaner words for example, and those didn't enter the language until about a 100 years after the events written about in the BOD. THere were also historical errors made that wouldn't have been made if the Book of Daniel was contemporary with the time it was written about.
 
Well, currently it is thought that Daniel was written between 161 bce and 165 bce. It uses Persian loaner words for example, and those didn't enter the language until about a 100 years after the events written about in the BOD. THere were also historical errors made that wouldn't have been made if the Book of Daniel was contemporary with the time it was written about.
Inconclusive a few hundred years with the records we have I doubt any conclusion, I don't know Babylonian history.

 
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