- Joined
- Jun 23, 2005
- Messages
- 13,534
- Reaction score
- 1,000
- Location
- Denver, CO
- Gender
- Female
- Political Leaning
- Liberal
Kelzie said:For those of you who haven't noticed, I am a vegan :mrgreen: ...however, I will try to keep personal bias out of this and rely on facts.
"In recent writings, the research cited most often (by American writers, at least) is the Harvard Nurses Study, which investigated osteoporosis and bone loss in women. As Dr. Robert M. Kradjian of Seton Medical Center at Daly City, Calif., explains, from 1980 to 1992 the Harvard Nurses Study followed 77,761 women between ages 34 and 59 to determine the relationship between milk consumption and osteoporosis.
Dr. Kradjian and Dr. Bernard both report the bottom-line results of the study: "Those who drank three or more glasses of milk per day had no reduction in the risk of hip or arm fractures over the 12-year period, compared to women who drank little or no milk, even after adjustment for weight, menopausal status, smoking, and alcohol use." Moreover, adds Dr. Kradjian, "Fracture rates were higher for those who consumed three or more servings, compared to those who did not drink milk."
source
"Studies link dairy consumption to ovarian and breast cancer in women and prostate cancer in men. Milk, both human and cow, has naturally-occurring growth hormones that can become cancerous in adults, whose bodies are supposed to have finished their growth spurts."
source
People. Milk is meant for baby cows. Not for humans. And every animal is weaned off of milk except for humans. Why is that? At what point did drinking milk from another species become, not only normal, but "healthy"
Anyway....discuss...with science and facts please!!!
danarhea said:Oh crap. Just like the tortoise and the hare (both delicious), I took my time coming up with a witty saying, and your bunny beat me to being the first poster.
Kelzie said::2razz: That's what you get for trying to be witty. So I take it you agree that milk is the weirdest thing people consume?
danarhea said:People consume weirder things than milk, but thats for another thread, and probably not in this forum either. LOL.
Seriously, I have a split position on milk. Milk is good for growing youngsters, but when people reach adulthood, milk can cause digestive problems. I dont drink milk at all, although I do eat cheese.
The main problem with milk is the processing of it, and that alone, whether one is vegan or not, should be enough of a fact to keep people away from it.
Trajan Octavian Titus said:I'd have to disagree with drinking milk not helping bone strength, I've only broken a couple bones and these where due to actions were if they wouldn't have broken I would be like the guy from unbreakable e.g. 2 rolled ankles from f'en up on a vert ramp and a launch ramp, 3 cracked rips after hittin a corner going 90 on my motorcycle hittin sugar sand on the edge of the road, bailing and doing about five barrel rolls smack into a telephone poll, and 1 really f'd up knee after a landing on my dirtbike where I came to a dead stop as a result of a tree stump that some ass whole put on the trail. But these are the only times I've broken bones and I've had alot worse wrecks than these with the exception of the motorcycle sceeloe.
Arch Enemy said:How can you possibly be a Vegan, a "strict Vegetarian" yet you're only one 95% of the time?
Milk bad? Then what are us Adult-Like people supposed to drink!?
Arch Enemy said:How can you possibly be a Vegan, a "strict Vegetarian" yet you're only one 95% of the time?
Milk bad? Then what are us Adult-Like people supposed to drink!?
mistermain said:Milk gives me gas.
Kelzie said:Well, scientists at Harvard disagree with you. Maybe you should give them a call, and let them know they were mistaken.
Trajan Octavian Titus said:Are these the same ones who believe in global warming?
Kelzie said:What, you mean are they part of the vast majority of scientists in the world? Probably.
tecoyah said:Well...theres these guys....for starters
C.J. said:The petition states; There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gasses is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere and disruption of the Earth's climate. Moreover, there is substantial scientific evidence that increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide produce many beneficial effects upon the natural plant and animal environments of the Earth.
tecoyah said:Um....I did not say , nor did I in any way indicate that global warming was due to Human actions.
tecoyah said:Hell...even our current Administration now accepts Global Warming as a real phenomenon.
tecoyah said:the scientific community as a whole generally believe the Earth is in a warming trend, regardless of the cause.
UtahBill said:What happened to the milk discussion?
I can't handle the lactose, so I don't drink milk. Somehow ice cream, cheese, and other milk products don't bother me, tho. I love a good vanilla malted, but it makes me sick, so that is the only thing I miss.
I have also read that a lot of people in other countries, particularly Africa, are not able to digest cow's milk at any age. Don't know how valid that info is.....
Kelzie said:You're right. It's a mutation in our genes that allows Western Europeans, and therefore Americans, to drink milk.
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?