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The Christian God Summed up in a Tweet

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From a selfish human standpoint, I suppose one would think that...
 
calamity said:
This is absolutely correct.
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Actually, God didn't just sit there and watch; he even turned his back on his one and only son and "forsake" him...

But you clearly have little understanding of precisely what was going on during that moment... Jesus was bearing the sins of the whole world, and since God can not look upon sin, he had to turn his back on Jesus at that moment. That's the moment that Jesus feared the most during the whole process...

Oh, and there was a good reason why Jesus was crucified... and I am appreciative for that in a way that words can't explain.
 
Elvira said:
From a selfish human standpoint, I suppose one would think that...
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I'm far from religious and I find I rarely agree with you, but the OP seems to have an axe to grind with certain groups. Last I checked, Middle of the road religious people from any background have no ill will towards anyone, why does the OP look to attack Christians in particular??? OP???
 
All the tweet reveals is how little the tweeter understands about Christ and why God his father sent him here to intervene for our eternal benefit.
 
lefty louie said:
I'm far from religious and I find I rarely agree with you, but the OP seems to have an axe to grind with certain groups. Last I checked, Middle of the road religious people from any background have no ill will towards anyone, why does the OP look to attack Christians in particular??? OP???
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I'm not the OP, but from what I can gather, it has to do with the hypocrisy he sees in many "Christians"...and with that, I agree with him on...what few realize, there are sincere Christians in the world, who not only talk the talk but walk the walk...you just have to look hard to find them...

Also the hypocrisy is not God's fault, even though many choose to blame Him, instead of putting the blame squarely on who's at fault...the organizations who teach it and uphold it and the one behind those organizations...Satan...Jesus made that abundantly clear...
 
Elvira said:
I'm not the OP, but from what I can gather, it has to do with the hypocrisy he sees in many "Christians"...and with that, I agree with him on...what few realize, there are sincere Christians in the world, who not only talk the talk but walk the walk...you just have to look hard to find them...

Also the hypocrisy is not God's fault, even though many choose to blame Him, instead of putting the blame squarely on who's at fault...the organizations who teach it and uphold it and the one behind those organizations...Satan...Jesus made that abundantly clear...
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You and I will differ over fault, I don't blame Satin or give credit to Christ, I lay both at the feet of the person that did the deed, good or bad doesn't matter to me, personal responsibility is most important. Peace.
 
lefty louie said:
You and I will differ over fault, I don't blame Satin or give credit to Christ, I lay both at the feet of the person that did the deed, good or bad doesn't matter to me, personal responsibility is most important. Peace.
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I agree with that...we were born with free will and we are responsible for our choices but the Bible clearly tells us that there are many things that can influence our decisions...to deny that fact is to let our guard down against them and perhaps lose that battle...

“We have a fight, not against blood and flesh, but against the governments, against the authorities, against the world-rulers of this darkness, against the wicked spirit forces in the heavenly places.” Eph. 6:12
 
StuPedaso said:
All the tweet reveals is how little the tweeter understands about Christ and why God his father sent him here to intervene for our eternal benefit.
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But god the 'father' could have redeemed the 'sins' of the people he had created without requiring his 'son' to be tortured to death. Being omnipotent and all that. Christianity is really very unpleasant.
 
Elvira said:
I agree with that...we were born with free will and we are responsible for our choices but the Bible clearly tells us that there are many things that can influence our decisions...to deny that fact is to let our guard down against them and perhaps lose that battle...

“We have a fight, not against blood and flesh, but against the governments, against the authorities, against the world-rulers of this darkness, against the wicked spirit forces in the heavenly places.” Eph. 6:12
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Your argument only works for those who already believe in the bible. For those of us who don't it is just so much verbiage.
 
Sweden said:
But god the 'father' could have redeemed the 'sins' of the people he had created without requiring his 'son' to be tortured to death. Being omnipotent and all that. Christianity is really very unpleasant.
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IF you are willing to consider that solution then you have to consider the solution in its entirety. Mind you...I dont think you even have a desire to do so, but if you do, you would have to recognize that for God, even an omnipotent God and loving father, to live in integrity He too must be subject to the laws of agency. Because consider the alternative. He stepped in to prevent Christs pain. And every other individuals pain. And in order to do that, he has to take away the ability of others to choose...even to do wrong. So farewell choice, agency. Live your life 'perfect', with no sorrow, but also no love. No pain. No joy. No sadness. No elation.

Hell.

Gods love was so great he turned away...not because he abandoned His child in the time of his greatest need, but rather because as a father, had He not turned away the temptation might be so great that he did precisely what is suggested...that He would have intervened. That He would have rained down with blood and horror on those that would harm His only child. Gods actions were acts of love...even in His inaction. As painful as it was to all involved...including Him.
 
Elvira said:
I agree with that...we were born with free will and we are responsible for our choices but the Bible clearly tells us that there are many things that can influence our decisions...to deny that fact is to let our guard down against them and perhaps lose that battle...

“We have a fight, not against blood and flesh, but against the governments, against the authorities, against the world-rulers of this darkness, against the wicked spirit forces in the heavenly places.” Eph. 6:12
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Where we differ is that you put faith in the bible (And there is nothing wrong with that, it works for you), I put faith in myself and those I surround myself with. Peace to you, never let anyone tell you to disavow your faith.
 
lefty louie said:
Where we differ is that you put faith in the bible (And there is nothing wrong with that, it works for you), I put faith in myself and those I surround myself with. Peace to you, never let anyone tell you to disavow your faith.
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Thank you, I pray that never happens...:peace
 
Sweden said:
But god the 'father' could have redeemed the 'sins' of the people he had created without requiring his 'son' to be tortured to death. Being omnipotent and all that. Christianity is really very unpleasant.
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Well, you have a point. Frankly, I believe we are ALL saved … that want to be. But Jesus' atonement, the way it was explained to me, was that all things have intelligence and it was necessary for his physical sacrifice to atone for our sins. IF God had short circuited that he would have flew in the face of all intelligence and ceased to be God; not as good an explanation as I got.

Yes, that's why I always say Christ save me from Christians.
 
VanceMack said:
IF you are willing to consider that solution then you have to consider the solution in its entirety. Mind you...I dont think you even have a desire to do so, but if you do, you would have to recognize that for God, even an omnipotent God and loving father, to live in integrity He too must be subject to the laws of agency. Because consider the alternative. He stepped in to prevent Christs pain. And every other individuals pain. And in order to do that, he has to take away the ability of others to choose...even to do wrong. So farewell choice, agency. Live your life 'perfect', with no sorrow, but also no love. No pain. No joy. No sadness. No elation.

Hell.

Gods love was so great he turned away...not because he abandoned His child in the time of his greatest need, but rather because as a father, had He not turned away the temptation might be so great that he did precisely what is suggested...that He would have intervened. That He would have rained down with blood and horror on those that would harm His only child. Gods actions were acts of love...even in His inaction. As painful as it was to all involved...including Him.
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That the Jesus myth is a metaphor for man's fate: death comes and there is no saving him from it by the great gods above; I could certainly agree. get behind and support 100%. But, to take the sully child's tale literally is a clown show, at best.
 
calamity said:
That the Jesus myth is a metaphor for man's fate: death comes and there is no saving him from it by the great gods above; I could certainly agree. get behind and support 100%. But, to take the sully child's tale literally is a clown show, at best.
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The intent of your posting as a sole means to demonstrate your hatred and bigotry was never in question. You get that...right?
 
VanceMack said:
The intent of your posting as a sole means to demonstrate your hatred and bigotry was never in question. You get that...right?
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My disdain for people reading too much into the Jesus myth is hardly trolling. But it does make me want to scream, "GROW UP!"
 
calamity said:
My disdain for people reading too much into the Jesus myth is hardly trolling. But it does make me want to scream, "GROW UP!"
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There is a degree of irony in someone that spends their day creating the most inane and foolish and usually completely dishonest threads telling others to "GROW UP" that is immeasurable.
 
VanceMack said:
There is a degree of irony in someone that spends their day creating the most inane and foolish and usually completely dishonest threads telling others to "GROW UP" that is immeasurable.
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It does take an adult to read nuance into the biblical fairy tales.
 
VanceMack said:
IF you are willing to consider that solution then you have to consider the solution in its entirety. Mind you...I dont think you even have a desire to do so, but if you do, you would have to recognize that for God, even an omnipotent God and loving father, to live in integrity He too must be subject to the laws of agency. Because consider the alternative. He stepped in to prevent Christs pain. And every other individuals pain. And in order to do that, he has to take away the ability of others to choose...even to do wrong. So farewell choice, agency. Live your life 'perfect', with no sorrow, but also no love. No pain. No joy. No sadness. No elation.

Hell.

Gods love was so great he turned away...not because he abandoned His child in the time of his greatest need, but rather because as a father, had He not turned away the temptation might be so great that he did precisely what is suggested...that He would have intervened. That He would have rained down with blood and horror on those that would harm His only child. Gods actions were acts of love...even in His inaction. As painful as it was to all involved...including Him.
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I am entirely unconvinced. God the father sent his 'son' to earth to be tortured to death. Not good. Btw what did God the Mother have to say about that revolting plan?
 
StuPedaso said:
Well, you have a point. Frankly, I believe we are ALL saved … that want to be. But Jesus' atonement, the way it was explained to me, was that all things have intelligence and it was necessary for his physical sacrifice to atone for our sins. IF God had short circuited that he would have flew in the face of all intelligence and ceased to be God; not as good an explanation as I got.

Yes, that's why I always say Christ save me from Christians.
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Good for you. You have got away from the disgusting 'atonement' thing which, imo, is a step in the right direction.
 
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