The Chinese beat Trump yet again regarding tariffs. (1 Viewer)

[Showtime586]

FT says Chinese exporters ‘washing’ products in 3rd countries to avoid Trump tariffs | Forexlive

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Now, it really isn't all that hard to outsmart Trump. As Warren Buffet once said, "Trump is a terrible businessman".
That said, the Chinese have kicked Trump's ass ever since he tarted his stupid trade wars.
Magas must be thoroughly exhausted with all of this "winning".

 

[BitterPill]

FT says Chinese exporters ‘washing’ products in 3rd countries to avoid Trump tariffs | Forexlive

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Now, it really isn't all that hard to outsmart Trump. As Warren Buffet once said, "Trump is a terrible businessman".
That said, the Chinese have kicked Trump's ass ever since he tarted his stupid trade wars.
Magas must be thoroughly exhausted with all of this "winning".

WINNING never gets old.

MAGA.

 

[roberthughey]

FT says Chinese exporters ‘washing’ products in 3rd countries to avoid Trump tariffs | Forexlive

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Now, it really isn't all that hard to outsmart Trump. As Warren Buffet once said, "Trump is a terrible businessman".
That said, the Chinese have kicked Trump's ass ever since he tarted his stupid trade wars.
Magas must be thoroughly exhausted with all of this "winning".

Then tariff those countries too.

This shows the Chinese aren't fair when it comes to trade.

 

[Peacenik]

You can go back to the 1950's in imagination but not in reality. It is 2025. We need policies that match our age. We cannot pretend we are in some past age that won't exist again.

Modern America exists in a global economy. Anything we do to reduce trade hurts us. If we want our GDP to be high (and we need it to be) we have to accept that we are part of a global economy.

For every country that we piss off and cut off diplomacy with, that's handing our valuable relationships with all those countries to China. Every nation we step away from is a nation China steps in closer to. Obviously maga has not considered this at all.

If we don't like having the world use dollars as the main form of currency, and we keep messing around with these tremendously stupid ideas and shaking the core of financial security with all this uncertainly and unpredictability, we will end up seeing the world shift to the Yen as the most common form of currency.

Guess how tough it's gonna be to pay down our debt after that happens?

Maga = fools.

 

[Jay59]

https://www-forexlive-com.cdn.amppr...rd-countries-to-avoid-trump-tariffs-20250504/

Now, it really isn't all that hard to outsmart Trump. As Warren Buffet once said, "Trump is a terrible businessman".
That said, the Chinese have kicked Trump's ass ever since he tarted his stupid trade wars.
Magas must be thoroughly exhausted with all of this "winning".

There are other opinions.

Despite their denials, China is losing the tariffs war and retreating as fast as it can

Beijing’s biggest worry is not a tariff recession, but the social unrest that will follow.

nypost.com

Any suggestion otherwise is “groundless” and “fake news,” said Guo, who urged the US to stop “misleading the public.”​

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Understand that the “public” that Guo is worried about “misleading” does not live in America, but in China. You see, China’s state media has portrayed Xi Jinping as heroically standing up to Trump.​

Sort of like our state media claimed Biden was not in serious decline.

WINNING never gets old.

I have not noticed that.

As a Chiefs fan the last Super Bowl win was not as sweet as the first one.

 

[Questerr]

Then tariff those countries too.

This shows the Chinese aren't fair when it comes to trade.

And American consumers can go **** themselves, right?

 

[LouC]

You can go back to the 1950's in imagination but not in reality. It is 2025. We need policies that match our age. We cannot pretend we are in some past age that won't exist again.

Modern America exists in a global economy. Anything we do to reduce trade hurts us. If we want our GDP to be high (and we need it to be) we have to accept that we are part of a global economy.

For every country that we piss off and cut off diplomacy with, that's handing our valuable relationships with all those countries to China. Every nation we step away from is a nation China steps in closer to. Obviously maga has not considered this at all.

If we don't like having the world use dollars as the main form of currency, and we keep messing around with these tremendously stupid ideas and shaking the core of financial security with all this uncertainly and unpredictability, we will end up seeing the world shift to the Yen as the most common form of currency.

Guess how tough it's gonna be to pay down our debt after that happens?

Maga = fools.

Exactly

 

[The Mark]

FT says Chinese exporters ‘washing’ products in 3rd countries to avoid Trump tariffs | Forexlive

Financial Times bringing this process more mainstream attention

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Now, it really isn't all that hard to outsmart Trump. As Warren Buffet once said, "Trump is a terrible businessman".
That said, the Chinese have kicked Trump's ass ever since he tarted his stupid trade wars.
Magas must be thoroughly exhausted with all of this "winning".

Trump was good at one thing.

Playing a businessman on TV.

And even then it was less about the business and more about the entertainment.

 

[CaughtInThe]

 

[BitterPill]

As a Chiefs fan the last Super Bowl win was not as sweet as the first one.

As a Niner fan, a three-peat would have been icing, but as Marie alluded, even plain cake is edible enough for the poor.

MAGA.

 

[Ethel2]

There are other opinions.

Despite their denials, China is losing the tariffs war and retreating as fast as it can

Beijing’s biggest worry is not a tariff recession, but the social unrest that will follow.

nypost.com

Any suggestion otherwise is “groundless” and “fake news,” said Guo, who urged the US to stop “misleading the public.”​

​

Understand that the “public” that Guo is worried about “misleading” does not live in America, but in China. You see, China’s state media has portrayed Xi Jinping as heroically standing up to Trump.​

Sort of like our state media claimed Biden was not in serious decline.


I have not noticed that.

As a Chiefs fan the last Super Bowl win was not as sweet as the first one.

Links to the NY Post are not worth clicking on.
But isn't "winning" wonderful? How are those trade deals coming along?

 

[Jay59]

Links to the NY Post are not worth clicking on.

Why not? Everyone uses facts.

You have to cover both leans to get all of the facts.

But isn't "winning" wonderful? How are those trade deals coming along?

Winning is nice.

It has only been a month. Give the trade deals some time.

 

[Ethel2]

Why not? Everyone uses facts.

You have to cover both leans to get all of the facts.


Winning is nice.

It has only been a month. Give the trade deals some time.

This is why not:

The Post has been criticized since the beginning of Murdoch's ownership for sensationalism, blatant advocacy, and conservative bias. In 1980, the Columbia Journalism Review stated that the "New York Post is no longer merely a journalistic problem. It is a social problem—a force for evil."[60].
In a 2004 survey conducted by Pace University, the Post was rated the least-credible major news outlet in New York, and the only news outlet to receive more responses calling it "not credible" than credible (44% not credible to 39% credible).[65]

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And:

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The tariffs are a stupid idea, and attempt to bully both friends and foes. Nations do not take kindly to being bullied. Did you think China, for example, would just roll over and say "yes sir! May I have another?" as a response to this stupidity. Targeted tariffs are fine; global tariffs are stupid.
So.....how are those tariff deals coming along?

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[Tettsuo]

Then tariff those countries too.

This shows the Chinese aren't fair when it comes to trade.

Do you understand that China didn't create the trade imbalance?

 

[Visbek]

Then tariff those countries too.

Did you miss the whole "backing down from massive global tariffs" thing?

This shows the Chinese aren't fair when it comes to trade.

By the way, is it fair for the US to massively violate its free trade agreements, including one that Trump himself signed and praised?

 

[roberthughey]

And American consumers can go **** themselves, right?

That's already happened

 

[roberthughey]

Do you understand that China didn't create the trade imbalance?

Unfair trade practices.

They get nearly a half trillion dollars worth of trade into our country of 340 million people.

Yet China a country of over 1.2 billion people only allows 150 billion of our trade into their country.

 

[roberthughey]

Did you miss the whole "backing down from massive global tariffs" thing?




By the way, is it fair for the US to massively violate its free trade agreements, including one that Trump himself signed and praised?

Bad deals.

You are another one those - keep the status quo.

Do you like $1.15 trillion US trade deficits? Nearly 500 billion from China.

You see this as fair trade.

 

[Tettsuo]

Unfair trade practices.

They get nearly a half trillion dollars worth of trade into our country of 340 million people.

Yet China a country of over 1.2 billion people only allows 150 billion of our trade into their country.

No. Countries the world over have chosen to move their manufacturing to China due to low costs.

China didn't create that, they simply benefited from the need for businesses to have an ever-increasing profit.

 

[roberthughey]

No. Countries the world over have chosen to move their manufacturing to China due to low costs.

China didn't create that, they simply benefited from the need for businesses to have an ever-increasing profit.

You're confused.

China doesn't let our trade/goods into their country in same manner as the US allows their trade/goods into our country.

 

[Questerr]

That's already happened

It can and will be way worse.

 

[AConcernedCitizen]

Do you like $1.15 trillion US trade deficits? Nearly 500 billion from China.

You see this as fair trade.

Yeah. That is fair trade. A $1.15 trillion trade deficit is another way of saying a $1.15 trillion goods surplus. All it means is that we ended up receiving mostly goods from China, and China ended up receiving mostly money from us.

It's like when you go to the grocery store, and you buy a gallon of milk. You end up with a gallon of milk, and the store ends up with the money. Isn't that a fair trade?

If you didn't think it was a fair trade to exchange your money for the grocery store's milk, then why did you make the trade in the first place?

The value of the stuff we get from China is equivalent to the value of the money we pay for the stuff from China. That is what makes it a fair trade.

 

[Metric Mouse]

Yeah. That is fair trade. A $1.15 trillion trade deficit is another way of saying a $1.15 trillion goods surplus. All it means is that we ended up receiving mostly goods from China, and China ended up receiving mostly money from us.

It's like when you go to the grocery store, and you buy a gallon of milk. You end up with a gallon of milk, and the store ends up with the money. Isn't that a fair trade?

If you didn't think it was a fair trade to exchange your money for the grocery store's milk, then why did you make the trade in the first place?

The value of the stuff we get from China is equivalent to the value of the money we pay for the stuff from China. That is what makes it a fair trade.

And that's what is so dumb - remember when Biden placed tarrifs on aluminum and steel and other goods? It's like going to the grocery store, finding the eggs are too cheap, and paying them more instead of going next door for other eggs.

Just dumb all around.

 

[roberthughey]

Yeah. That is fair trade. A $1.15 trillion trade deficit is another way of saying a $1.15 trillion goods surplus. All it means is that we ended up receiving mostly goods from China, and China ended up receiving mostly money from us.

It's like when you go to the grocery store, and you buy a gallon of milk. You end up with a gallon of milk, and the store ends up with the money. Isn't that a fair trade?

If you didn't think it was a fair trade to exchange your money for the grocery store's milk, then why did you make the trade in the first place?

The value of the stuff we get from China is equivalent to the value of the money we pay for the stuff from China. That is what makes it a fair trade.

We don't buy milk from China.

 

[AConcernedCitizen]

We don't buy milk from China.

No. But some of us buy milk from the grocery store.

Many of us who go to the grocery store walk out with more groceries than we came in with and less money than we came in with. Does that mean that purchases at the grocery store aren't a fair trade?