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'The Big Bang Never Happened' Science writer Eric Lerner argues against the cosmological theory

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Just more evidence of how scientists are merely groping in the dark and making things up to further their own careers...

Boom! The universe burst into existence about 14 billion years ago. So argue proponents of the Big Bang, a widely accepted theory that the universe expanded from a very hot and dense state into, well, everything. But not everyone agrees: "Saying that the Big Bang theory is a well-confirmed theory is very much like saying that the emperor's clothes are beautiful," science writer Eric Lerner tells the Asia Times in the first of a four-part series. "It's something that lots of people agree on because ultimately their jobs and income depend on it. But it's not something that's backed up by scientific evidence." Among his arguments, Lerner says the universe "contains objects that are 10 times older" than the Big Bang and "light elements" are distributed in ways that contradict the theory.

Lerner supports so-called "plasma cosmology"—Hannes Alfvén's theory that the universe is eternal and formed largely by ionized gases and plasmas, not gravity and baryonic physics, as most experts argue today. Lerner also says large-scale plasmas can be harnessed to realize nuclear fusion as a safe energy source on Earth. But he's definitely an outlier: A 2019 Discover article described Lerner as having "a cult following" and a model that's "thoroughly inconsistent with the data," while an online essay picks apart Lerner's theory, saying it was "known to be incorrect in 1991" when he wrote his book The Big Bang Never Happened. But Lerner seems unphased: "Wherever you look at what the Big Bang hypothesis predicts," he says, "you get a mass of contradictions."

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'The Big Bang Never Happened'

Science writer Eric Lerner argues against the cosmological theory
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Elvira said:
Just more evidence of how scientists are merely groping in the dark and making things up to further their own careers...

Boom! The universe burst into existence about 14 billion years ago. So argue proponents of the Big Bang, a widely accepted theory that the universe expanded from a very hot and dense state into, well, everything. But not everyone agrees: "Saying that the Big Bang theory is a well-confirmed theory is very much like saying that the emperor's clothes are beautiful," science writer Eric Lerner tells the Asia Times in the first of a four-part series. "It's something that lots of people agree on because ultimately their jobs and income depend on it. But it's not something that's backed up by scientific evidence." Among his arguments, Lerner says the universe "contains objects that are 10 times older" than the Big Bang and "light elements" are distributed in ways that contradict the theory.

Lerner supports so-called "plasma cosmology"—Hannes Alfvén's theory that the universe is eternal and formed largely by ionized gases and plasmas, not gravity and baryonic physics, as most experts argue today. Lerner also says large-scale plasmas can be harnessed to realize nuclear fusion as a safe energy source on Earth. But he's definitely an outlier: A 2019 Discover article described Lerner as having "a cult following" and a model that's "thoroughly inconsistent with the data," while an online essay picks apart Lerner's theory, saying it was "known to be incorrect in 1991" when he wrote his book The Big Bang Never Happened. But Lerner seems unphased: "Wherever you look at what the Big Bang hypothesis predicts," he says, "you get a mass of contradictions."

www.newser.com

'The Big Bang Never Happened'

Science writer Eric Lerner argues against the cosmological theory
www.newser.com www.newser.com
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Versus your belief that a sky fairy made it happen. I swear I love it when the religious nutjobs attack science when religion just accepts "GOD DID IT" and that somehow passes as "logical" to these religious nutjob retards.
 
Elvira said:
Just more evidence of how scientists are merely groping in the dark and making things up to further their own careers...

Boom! The universe burst into existence about 14 billion years ago. So argue proponents of the Big Bang, a widely accepted theory that the universe expanded from a very hot and dense state into, well, everything. But not everyone agrees: "Saying that the Big Bang theory is a well-confirmed theory is very much like saying that the emperor's clothes are beautiful," science writer Eric Lerner tells the Asia Times in the first of a four-part series. "It's something that lots of people agree on because ultimately their jobs and income depend on it. But it's not something that's backed up by scientific evidence." Among his arguments, Lerner says the universe "contains objects that are 10 times older" than the Big Bang and "light elements" are distributed in ways that contradict the theory.

Lerner supports so-called "plasma cosmology"—Hannes Alfvén's theory that the universe is eternal and formed largely by ionized gases and plasmas, not gravity and baryonic physics, as most experts argue today. Lerner also says large-scale plasmas can be harnessed to realize nuclear fusion as a safe energy source on Earth. But he's definitely an outlier: A 2019 Discover article described Lerner as having "a cult following" and a model that's "thoroughly inconsistent with the data," while an online essay picks apart Lerner's theory, saying it was "known to be incorrect in 1991" when he wrote his book The Big Bang Never Happened. But Lerner seems unphased: "Wherever you look at what the Big Bang hypothesis predicts," he says, "you get a mass of contradictions."

www.newser.com

'The Big Bang Never Happened'

Science writer Eric Lerner argues against the cosmological theory
www.newser.com www.newser.com
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The disagreements are nuanced: inflation, Multiverse, dark energy, expansion of space, uncertainty principle, etc. You can spend ten years trying to make sense of it all.

I'll stick with the current model until someone comes up with a better one.
 
calamity said:
The disagreements are nuanced: inflation, Multiverse, dark energy, expansion of space, uncertainty principle, etc. You can spend ten years trying to make sense of it all.

I'll stick with the current model until someone comes up with a better one.
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I'll stick with Jehovah God's explanation because there is no better one...
 
Elvira said:
"It's something that lots of people agree on because ultimately their jobs and income depend on it. But it's not something that's backed up by scientific evidence."
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Wonderful summary of a religion. Could not have have put it better myself.
 
Slavister said:
I never said that I do.
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Ever been to a kingdom hall? You'll never see a collection plate passed nor a pastor on the platform begging for money...
 
Slavister said:
Yet you guys rely on donations to finance billions of dollars for your operations.

JW are very much non-transparent about finances, which is always quite suspicious as well.
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Not true...you can find out all about it on our site...voluntary donations are freely given to support our world-wide preaching work...10% tithes and begging/pleading in person and on air, not so much...


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Elvira said:
Just more evidence of how scientists are merely groping in the dark and making things up to further their own careers...



Lerner supports so-called "plasma cosmology"—Hannes Alfvén's theory that the universe is eternal and formed largely by ionized gases and plasmas, not gravity and baryonic physics, as most experts argue today. Lerner also says large-scale plasmas can be harnessed to realize nuclear fusion as a safe energy source on Earth. But he's definitely an outlier: A 2019 Discover article described Lerner as having "a cult following" and a model that's "thoroughly inconsistent with the data," while an online essay picks apart Lerner's theory, saying it was "known to be incorrect in 1991" when he wrote his book The Big Bang Never Happened. But Lerner seems unphased: "Wherever you look at what the Big Bang hypothesis predicts," he says, "you get a mass of contradictions."

www.newser.com

'The Big Bang Never Happened'

Science writer Eric Lerner argues against the cosmological theory
www.newser.com www.newser.com
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Eric Learner does not support your religious ideas of a religious creator. His idea has also not stood up to scientific scrutiny.

Lerner's ideas have been rejected by the professional physicists and cosmologists who have reviewed them. In these critiques, critics have explained that, contrary to Lerner's assertions, the size of superclusters is a feature limited by subsequent observations to the end of greatness and is consistent with having arisen from a power spectrum of density fluctuations growing from the quantum fluctuations predicted in inflationary models.[25][26][27] Anisotropies were discovered in subsequent analysis of the both COBE and BOOMERanG experiments and were more fully characterized by the Wilkinson Microwave Anisotropy Probe[25][26] and Planck.

Physical cosmologists who have commented on the book have generally dismissed it.[25][27][28][29][30][31] In particular, American astrophysicist and cosmologist Edward L. Wright was critical of Lerner for making errors of fact and interpretation, and criticized specifics of Lerner's alternative cosmology, arguing that:[26]


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Wiki/learner
 
Elvira said:
Then you certainly don't know about everyone, that's for sure...
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Says the one who thinks they know everything about everyone. lol

So, are you shelving the truth for the new Learner theory or what? What's the point of this thread. You already know the truth for everyone here, why confuse us all with tricks like this.

I almost got excited.
 
Ginger Ale said:
Says the one who thinks they know everything about everyone. lol

So, are you shelving the truth for the new Learner theory or what? What's the point of this thread. You already know the truth for everyone here, why confuse us all with tricks like this.

I almost got excited.
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The point in this thread is claiming the big bang actually happened, that there is scientific proof, that it is a fact, is a lie...otherwise all scientists would be in agreement...
 
Elvira said:
The point in this thread is claiming the big bang actually happened, that there is scientific proof, that it is a fact, is a lie...otherwise all scientists would be in agreement...
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Using a crackpot to say try to cast doubt on the big bang theory is not very good opening move to discuss scientific evidence. WHy are you using a total fruitcake to make that claim? I mean, it's ignorant.
 
Praxas said:
when religion just accepts "GOD DID IT" and that somehow passes as "logical"
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Religion cannot "accept" anything. People can. I have never seen a religious text that says "God did it" and that's all. Have you?
 
Valery said:
Religion cannot "accept" anything. People can. I have never seen a religious text that says "God did it" and that's all. Have you?
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have you read genesis in the Bible? religion most certainly has accepted “God Did It”.
 
Lisa said:
His idea has also not stood up to scientific scrutiny.
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And the ideas of the proposers of the big bang theory have not always stood to scientific scrutiny. What's new?
 
Praxas said:
have you read genesis in the Bible? religion most certainly has accepted “God Did It”.
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My point was, as you must have noticed, that "god did it" is not all there is to the argument. Religion cannot accept anything. Where does genesis say, "God did it"?
 
Elvira said:
The point in this thread is claiming the big bang actually happened, that there is scientific proof, that it is a fact, is a lie...otherwise all scientists would be in agreement...
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The big bang did happen and we have proof of it occurring.
Videos from the US Fermi lab. https://www.fnal.gov/




 
Elvira said:
I'll stick with Jehovah God's explanation because there is no better one...
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Because it's easier for your mind to grasp?
 
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