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The Apoplectic Skeptic

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The Apoplectic Skeptic

This thread was inspired by many posts and posters in the Beliefs and Skepticism forum, too many to credit adequately here,
but the immediate impetus for this thread came from the following post by RAMOSS:


To which Angel replied:​


Angel seems to us on the right side of this issue.

And so

without further ado...


The Five Kinds of Skepticism

I. Philosophical Slepticism

An old and venerable philosophy grounded in philosophical doubt as to the possibility of knowledge and the suffivienct of reason/
Much to respect here.

II. Religious Skepticism

Doubt as to the truth of religious doctrine.
Much to respect here.

III. Ordinary Skepticism

Ordinary incredulity and doubt based on critical thinking.
Much to respect here.

IV. Pseudo-skepticism

Masked Denialism.
This so-called skeptic would not be convinced by any evidence and is dismissive of evidence/
This so-called skeptic denies when only doubt is called for
This so-called skeptic tends to discredit rather than investigate, employs double standards in the application of criticism,
and assumes criticism requires no burden of proof.
Not much to respect here.

V. Apoplectic Skepticism

This is pseudoskepticism with terrible manners, given to name-calling and vulgarity.
Much here to condemn.


Which are you?

Pseudoskeptics are invited to illustrate their pseudoskepticism unwittingly here in this thread.

Friends of pseudoskepticism are invited to defend pseudoskepticism.

Opponents of pseudoskepticism are invited to criticize pseudoskepticism.

Apoplectic Skeptics are invited to confess their sins and turn over a new leaf.

Let's make the test question easy:

What is Ultimate Reality?



 
What is Ultimate Reality?
Ultimate Reality must be mind or something mind-like inasmuch as the fundamental datum of reality as experienced is mind.
 
Now - that is all we have.
Observe and enjoy.
 

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy."
 
from The Arch Apoplectic Skeptic

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Richard_Dawkins

And an asshole of the first water.
 
Ultimate Reality must be mind or something mind-like inasmuch as the fundamental datum of reality as experienced is mind.

If “ultimate reality” exists, how would we ever know we finally had achieved it? Is it a state where no further new observations or ideas would make a difference in our worldview, and we could just relax and close our eyes and brains once and for all?

Do you see why the whole concept of anything being “ultimate reality” might be a little dangerous?
 
The Apoplectic skeptic, or the cantilever believer?
 
If the phrase "ultimate reality" has a referent, then that referent is already "achieved" (to use your word) and remains outside our ken for the obvious reason, namely, that reason cannot get outside it in order to ken it.
 
If the phrase "ultimate reality" has a referent, then that referent is already "achieved" (to use your word) and remains outside our ken for the obvious reason, namely, that reason cannot get outside it in order to ken it.

So at what point does it become chasing rainbows- things that disappear as soon as you think you have are reaching them, and pop up somewhere else ? Is it ever fruitful to pursue such Locus imaginarius?
 
Guilty. But some people are just clueless and classless and clumsy.

Well, at least you admit it...ditto on the 2nd part...
 

Is skepticism something like...you can tell me anything, show me?
 
Is skepticism something like...you can tell me anything, show me?


https://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100131001927AAKcKCP
 
"Chasing the horizon" is more apt as a metaphor, I'd say. The life of the mind cannot but venture out toward the ever-receding limits of its understanding. Is this a fruitful adventure? Forbidden fruit though it be, advocates of the humanities (like me) see it as the only adventure worthy of mind.


 

That is not at all what Jesus taught...Jesus indicated that his followers should be willing to endure personal insult without retaliating...

‘Put your sword away'...'whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other also to him'...
 
That is not at all what Jesus taught...Jesus indicated that his followers should be willing to endure personal insult without retaliating...

‘Put your sword away'...'whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other also to him'...

What jesus taught, obviously wasn't learned very well. If I remember correctly the crusades included those who believe in christianity? How about the Inquisition, more religion killing in the name of god. Hell the folks in the middle east of the same religion are killing each other because on side isn't practicing Islam in the right way. So what god taught and man learned is two completely different things.
 
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