The Anti-Woke Death Spiral; How Trump's Culture War Is Killing Conservativism

[skews13.]

As MAGA doubles down on its “anti-woke” crusade, a deeper truth is emerging: the movement isn’t defeating wokeness—it’s destroying itself. This is what happens when a party governs by tantrum—when every policy becomes a protest and every protest becomes a grift. In the MAGA age, “woke” is the new universal scapegoat: a catchall for anything slightly progressive, mildly inclusive, or remotely fact-based. But unlike the enemies of old, this one is both everywhere and nowhere. They can’t shut it down because they can’t even define it. And so, the campaign against it has become a carousel of moral panic, where they ban a book one week, then boycott a burrito the next.

But this approach has a flaw: eventually, you run out of things to hate before you run out of voters to lose.

The Anti-Woke Death Spiral: How Trump’s Culture War Is Killing Conservatism

As MAGA doubles down on its “anti-woke” crusade, a deeper truth is emerging: the movement isn’t defeating wokeness—it’s destroying itself. This is what happens when a party governs by ...

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[gman]

It’s flawed just as the “woke” movement was flawed. Let’s not kid ourselves that one message was better than the other.

 

[NatMorton]

As MAGA doubles down on its “anti-woke” crusade, a deeper truth is emerging: the movement isn’t defeating wokeness—it’s destroying itself. This is what happens when a party governs by tantrum—when every policy becomes a protest and every protest becomes a grift. In the MAGA age, “woke” is the new universal scapegoat: a catchall for anything slightly progressive, mildly inclusive, or remotely fact-based. But unlike the enemies of old, this one is both everywhere and nowhere. They can’t shut it down because they can’t even define it. And so, the campaign against it has become a carousel of moral panic, where they ban a book one week, then boycott a burrito the next.

But this approach has a flaw: eventually, you run out of things to hate before you run out of voters to lose.

The Anti-Woke Death Spiral: How Trump’s Culture War Is Killing Conservatism

As MAGA doubles down on its “anti-woke” crusade, a deeper truth is emerging: the movement isn’t defeating wokeness—it’s destroying itself. This is what happens when a party governs by ...

www.dailykos.com

That's one perspective. Another is that "woke" ideology is in fact a bad set of ideas and that doubling down on it is a principal reason why the Democrats have lost to one of the most flawed major party nominees in the history of Presidential politics, twice.

 

[Slartibartfast]

Trump isn't killing conservatism as much as making the reasons they have acted they way they have since the great depression (and in some cases the civil war) part of the regular conversation.

 

[roberthughey]

The op's source is DailyKos.

This is right up their ally.

 

[Allan]

That's one perspective. Another is that "woke" ideology is in fact a bad set of ideas and that doubling down on it is a principal reason why the Democrats have lost to one of the most flawed major party nominees in the history of Presidential politics, twice.

Good balanced take on this.

In Canada's recent federal election the conservatives lost because their "anti woke" rhetoric didn't resonate with Canadians. It just sounded cringe when Poilievre gave Trump type speeches.

On the other hand Carney completely avoided any mention of anything that could be taken as woke. His message centered on the economy and how to respond to external threats.

It's a good path for US Democrats to follow.

 

[NatMorton]

It's a good path for US Democrats to follow.

And not that Biden governed this way, but the Democrats lone victory against Trump came at the hands of a candidate whom the DNC packaged as a more moderate Democrat.

For many years now the path to the White House as been cleared by winning moderates in purple states. Generally speaking, these are not voters who crave identity politics or who embrace the status of victim.

 

[Hari Seldon]

That's one perspective. Another is that "woke" ideology is in fact a bad set of ideas and that doubling down on it is a principal reason why the Democrats have lost to one of the most flawed major party nominees in the history of Presidential politics, twice.

 

[NatMorton]

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I suppose the sad thing is that you probably believe you've scored some kind of point.

 

[Grand Mal]

The op's source is DailyKos.

This is right up their ally.

Alley. You're welcome.
Wouldn't you love to see William F. Buckley jr. do 15 minutes on the subject of Trump and Trumpism? I'd pay money for that.

 

[roberthughey]

Alley. You're welcome.
Wouldn't you love to see William F. Buckley jr. do 15 minutes on the subject of Trump and Trumpism? I'd pay money for that.

I know.

He wouldn't like Trump.

 

[aociswundumho]

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The DoI was referring to equal rights, not equal outcomes.

 

[skews13.]

That's one perspective. Another is that "woke" ideology is in fact a bad set of ideas and that doubling down on it is a principal reason why the Democrats have lost to one of the most flawed major party nominees in the history of Presidential politics, twice.

Harris lost to Trump by 1.5 percentage points. Democrats picked up seats in the House. Democrats held on to a Senate seat they were projected to lose.

Exit polling clearly showed Trump won solely on prices of goods and services, and inflation.

Given the fact he is now underwater on his number one hot button issue of immigration, also clearly shows that what the right wing media parrots as wokeism, is widely accepted as basic civil rights, and decency by the overwhelming majority of Americans.

Wokeism is a winner for Democrats, and a loser for Republicans. The article is spot on in it's analysis of "woke" as being just another radical rightist pejorative.

Of course, the elections this year in VA, and NJ, and the midterms next year will affirm whether or not the voters agree with that assessment.

 

[NatMorton]

Wokeism is a winner for Democrats, and a loser for Republicans

Awsome. I sincerely hope the DNC leadership believes as you do.

 

[j brown's body]

And not that Biden governed this way, but the Democrats lone victory against Trump came at the hands of a candidate whom the DNC packaged as a more moderate Democrat.

For many years now the path to the White House as been cleared by winning moderates in purple states. Generally speaking, these are not voters who crave identity politics or who embrace the status of victim.

Biden ran as a progressive. His own VP was a DEI pick.

 

[Fletch]

As MAGA doubles down on its “anti-woke” crusade, a deeper truth is emerging: the movement isn’t defeating wokeness—it’s destroying itself. This is what happens when a party governs by tantrum—when every policy becomes a protest and every protest becomes a grift. In the MAGA age, “woke” is the new universal scapegoat: a catchall for anything slightly progressive, mildly inclusive, or remotely fact-based. But unlike the enemies of old, this one is both everywhere and nowhere. They can’t shut it down because they can’t even define it. And so, the campaign against it has become a carousel of moral panic, where they ban a book one week, then boycott a burrito the next.

But this approach has a flaw: eventually, you run out of things to hate before you run out of voters to lose.

The Anti-Woke Death Spiral: How Trump’s Culture War Is Killing Conservatism

As MAGA doubles down on its “anti-woke” crusade, a deeper truth is emerging: the movement isn’t defeating wokeness—it’s destroying itself. This is what happens when a party governs by ...

www.dailykos.com

Umm, it was the 'woke crusade' of the left that was the culture war. What Trump is doing is dismantling it and returning the US to sanity. Not sure how the hell you got this so backwards.

 

[j brown's body]

The popularity of wokeness is seen in the effort the right-wing has to use in order to try and stop it in the media, in education, in the corporate world and just about everywhere else.

If wokeness was truly unpopular, it would die a natural death, not one forced upon it by the right-wing.

 

[reinaert]

The popularity of wokeness is seen in the effort the right-wing has to use in order to try and stop it in the media, in education, in the corporate world and just about everywhere else.

If wokeness was truly unpopular, it would die a natural death, not one forced upon it by the right-wing.

This. They went to war with tolerance because they felt its strength.

 

[LouC]

The Anti-Woke Death Spiral; How Trump's Culture War Is Killing Conservatism.​

How on earth could President Donald Trump's supposed "culture war" be having any effect on Conservatism?

Donald Trump is not now nor has he ever been a Conservative.

 

[Fletch]

The popularity of wokeness is seen in the effort the right-wing has to use in order to try and stop it in the media, in education, in the corporate world and just about everywhere else.

If wokeness was truly unpopular, it would die a natural death, not one forced upon it by the right-wing.

You are so right. The last thing I want to see is the entire democrat party run on a return to wokism in every facet of American life in the next couple of elections.

 

[Peacenik]

As MAGA doubles down on its “anti-woke” crusade, a deeper truth is emerging: the movement isn’t defeating wokeness—it’s destroying itself. This is what happens when a party governs by tantrum—when every policy becomes a protest and every protest becomes a grift. In the MAGA age, “woke” is the new universal scapegoat: a catchall for anything slightly progressive, mildly inclusive, or remotely fact-based. But unlike the enemies of old, this one is both everywhere and nowhere. They can’t shut it down because they can’t even define it. And so, the campaign against it has become a carousel of moral panic, where they ban a book one week, then boycott a burrito the next.

But this approach has a flaw: eventually, you run out of things to hate before you run out of voters to lose.

The Anti-Woke Death Spiral: How Trump’s Culture War Is Killing Conservatism

As MAGA doubles down on its “anti-woke” crusade, a deeper truth is emerging: the movement isn’t defeating wokeness—it’s destroying itself. This is what happens when a party governs by ...

www.dailykos.com

"If your entire vision for the future is “Stop the Woke,” you eventually have to answer the question: And then what? The GOP doesn’t have an answer. Because it’s not governing, it’s performing — and outrage, self-righteousness, and decay."

Well said. Yes. OK, grievance politics that gets power is able to eliminate everything they complained about. OK, what next? When all of those 'horrible' things have been eliminated, how does that make the country any better? Particularly when the reality is that the whole 'stop woke' thing is merely a cover, a distraction from the fact that billionaires are getting their way, getting tax breaks, even as the debt soars and services are cut.

Maga got taken for a ride in the clown car and dropped off in a strange place that doesn't really seem any better. With no way back. Now what?

The rest of us tried to tell them but they wouldn't listen.

So yeah. What next? This is 'great?' How come it doesn't really seem any better?

 

[Fletch]

This. They went to war with tolerance because they felt its strength.

Wokism is nothing more than twice baked Marxism dude. And you fell for it.

 

[j brown's body]

You are so right. The last thing I want to see is the entire democrat party run on a return to wokism in every facet of American life in the next couple of elections.

Using the government to stop the will of the people is kind of a bad look and not likely to have a lasting effect.

 

[aociswundumho]

If wokeness was truly unpopular, it would die a natural death, not one forced upon it by the right-wing.

It is dying. I don't hear any idiot leftists announcing their preferred pronouns anymore before they speak, like this moron:

 

[NatMorton]

It is dying. I don't hear any idiot leftists announcing their preferred pronouns anymore before they speak, like this moron:

Hold on there. You've cited one of the few examples from the public record of Harris speaking clearly, simply, and accurately. To hold it against her is rather unkind.