The Antarctic Ice Shelf Melt Lowest Ever Recorded

[LowDown]

Scientists at the British Antarctic Survey say that the melting of the Pine Island Glacier ice shelf in Antarctica has suddenly slowed right down in the last few years, confirming earlier research which suggested that the shelf's melt does not result from human-driven global warming.

The Pine Island Glacier in West Antarctica and its associated sea ice shelf is closely watched: this is because unlike most of the sea ice around the austral continent, its melt rate has seemed to be accelerating quickly since scientists first began seriously studying it in the 1990s.

Originally they thought that the melting was due to warming of the water by global warming. Now it appears more likely to be due to climate variability, which means natural variability.

 

[Lord of Planar]

Originally they thought that the melting was due to warming of the water by global warming. Now it appears more likely to be due to climate variability, which means natural variability.

It may take a few decades, but at some point in time, the alarmists will become real scientist.

 

[Earthling]

Climate science is in its infancy, yet to take its first baby steps.

Climate science is a very young but fascinating multi-disciplinary field of research. It’s actually in its infancy and that has been needlessly prolonged by an arrogant fixation that we can somehow already predict the climate for decades ahead, even before we actually understand how it works, never mind about being sure what are the basic driving forces behind it. It’s for that simple reason, the catastrophic predictions of what it would do have turned out to be so wide of the mark.

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About a year ago, I attended a debate between a noted warmist and skeptic. They agreed only on one thing: Climate science is in its infancy. We are just beginning to understand the climate. When we look back, we will understand how little we really understood and how wrong our first findings were. This is the way science is created.

Can We Really Call Climate Science A Science? - Forbes

 

[VanceMack]

Originally they thought that the melting was due to warming of the water by global warming. Now it appears more likely to be due to climate variability, which means natural variability.

Just out of curiosity, is this from the same group of scientists trying to prove the ice sheet is disappearing that have been stuck in the disappearing ice sheet and the ones who know have their rescue boat also stuck in the disappearing ice sheet?

 

[Wiseone]

Just out of curiosity, is this from the same group of scientists trying to prove the ice sheet is disappearing that have been stuck in the disappearing ice sheet and the ones who know have their rescue boat also stuck in the disappearing ice sheet?

No it was a group of scientists who were studying global warming but had to go to work in the snow, silly I know you'd think the fact it was snowing would disprove what they were working on.

 

[VanceMack]

No it was a group of scientists who were studying global warming but had to go to work in the snow, silly I know you'd think the fact it was snowing would disprove what they were working on.

Ah...so its a different set of scientists. So...the scientists that you laud that are working in the snow have claimed "the melting of the Pine Island Glacier ice shelf in Antarctica has suddenly slowed right down in the last few years, confirming earlier research which suggested that the shelf's melt does not result from human-driven global warming."

Apparently THEY have proven that the whole man made AGW **** is just that...and that while climate is doing what climate has ALWAYS done...its not caused by man...and you are down with that. Cool. Freezing.

 

[Wiseone]

Ah...so its a different set of scientists. So...the scientists that you laud that are working in the snow have claimed "the melting of the Pine Island Glacier ice shelf in Antarctica has suddenly slowed right down in the last few years, confirming earlier research which suggested that the shelf's melt does not result from human-driven global warming."

Apparently THEY have proven that the whole man made AGW **** is just that...and that while climate is doing what climate has ALWAYS done...its not caused by man...and you are down with that. Cool. Freezing.

I never argue for or against man made global warming, I'm not smart enough on the topic to do so and unlike most people I acknowledge that. But the criticism that these people got stuck in the ice is just plain stupid.

As for climate change well there's frankly no arguing against it, the climate does change, it has changed in the past, it will change in the future and is changing now, the Earth is simply dynamic like that with or without man. Now that doesn't mean man plays no role but again I don't get into that, but there's no denying that climate yes indeed does in fact change and is changing. You know that as well and I recognize that you acknowledged it. But just because something occurs naturally doesn't mean that man has no impact on it or cannot have any impact on it. You know a ball will roll down a hill naturally, but that doesn't mean a man can't make it roll faster or slower.

 

[VanceMack]

I never argue for or against man made global warming, I'm not smart enough on the topic to do so and unlike most people I acknowledge that. But the criticism that these people got stuck in the ice is just plain stupid.

As for climate change well there's frankly no arguing against it, the climate does change, it has changed in the past, it will change in the future and is changing now, the Earth is simply dynamic like that with or without man. Now that doesn't mean man plays no role but again I don't get into that, but there's no denying that climate yes indeed does in fact change and is changing. You know that as well and I recognize that you acknowledged it. But just because something occurs naturally doesn't mean that man has no impact on it or cannot have any impact on it. You know a ball will roll down a hill naturally, but that doesn't mean a man can't make it roll faster or slower.

Its not CRITICISM...its IRONY. And its funny as hell.

And the point would be that we could probably accomplish a lot more towards developing cleaner air, water, land, energy sources, etc if we didnt have the mindless banter OMIGAWD its global warming and were all gonna DIE buried in a 17 foot wall of water. We need intelligent research into realistic clean energy sources and better pollution controls, not kneejerk spending based on fear.

 

[LowDown]

Just out of curiosity, is this from the same group of scientists trying to prove the ice sheet is disappearing that have been stuck in the disappearing ice sheet and the ones who know have their rescue boat also stuck in the disappearing ice sheet?

No, this is a serious research group based in Britain, and I'm sure they truly appreciate all the publicity that the Spirit of Mawson expedition is bringing to Antarctic research. Not to mention the massive diversion of resources necessary to rescue those clowns.

Antarctic research ain't what it used to be. Mawson lost all of his men and parts of both of his feet and ate all of his sled dogs trying to survey the East Antarctic ice shelf 100 years ago. One of these guys on the Spirit of Mawson expedition was complaining about not being able to get banana smoothies and about how narrow his bunk was.

 

[LowDown]

I never argue for or against man made global warming, I'm not smart enough on the topic to do so and unlike most people I acknowledge that. But the criticism that these people got stuck in the ice is just plain stupid.

I disagree. There are solid reasons for criticizing the leaders of the Spirit of Mawson expedition. 1) They assumed that the ice at Mawson station would be thinner because of the 100 years of global warming since Mawson. That was wrong. 2) They didn't hire an ice breaker; the ship was "ice strengthen" but not equipped to go into dense ice. 3) They took 26 paying passengers into hazardous polar waters and ice, needlessly exposing them to danger. 4) They didn't have a solid rationale for the expedition in the first place -- more than anything it seems to have been a publicity stunt. 5) They apparently had a simplistic understanding of the dynamics of the ice shelf, which is a lot more complicated than saying that if it's warmer ice decreases.

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