The 14th Amendment Birthright Citizenship was intended for the children of freed slaves

Rexedgar said:

Words have consequences. Parse the words.

”All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”

The 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution

SECTION. 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United...

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Buster Keaton said:

14th Amendment to the U.S Constitution - Fourteenth Amendment - anchor babies and birthright citizenship - original intent - US Constitution

14th Amendment to the U.S Constitution - Fourteenth Amendment - anchor babies and birthright citizenship - original intent - US Constitution, apportionment, slavery slaves citizenship vote

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Post-Civil War reforms focused on injustices to African Americans.
The 14th Amendment was ratified in 1868 to protect the rights of native-born Black Americans, whose rights were being denied as recently-freed slaves.
It was written in a manner so as to prevent state governments from ever denying citizenship to Blacks born in the United States.
But in 1868, the United States had no formal immigration policy, and the authors therefore saw no need to address immigration explicitly in the amendment.
The United States did not limit immigration in 1868 when the Fourteenth Amendment was ratified.
Thus by definition there were no illegal immigrants and the issue of citizenship for children of those here in violation of the law was nonexistent.
The phrase "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" was intended to exclude American-born persons from automatic citizenship whose allegiance to the United States was not complete.
With illegal aliens who are unlawfully in the United States, their native country has a claim of allegiance on the child.
Thus, the completeness of their allegiance to the United States is impaired, which therefore precludes automatic citizenship.

Comment:
Birthright Citizenship was never intended for the children of people who illegally entered our country.
It was intended to protect the children of freed slaves.
It is automatically assumed that Birthright Citizenship includes the children of American citizens.
Therefore if neither of the parents of a child who is born on American soil are American citizens, then that child should not be granted birthright citizenship.

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All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and the State wherein they reside

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Buster Keaton said:

Birthright Citizenship was intended to protect the children of freed slaves, not for the children of people who violated or immigration laws.
The word "intent" is a very important word for constitutional legitimacy.

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Buster Keaton said:

Birthright Citizenship was intended to protect the children of freed slaves, not for the children of people who violated or immigration laws.
The word "intent" is a very important word for constitutional legitimacy.

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Buster Keaton said:

14th Amendment to the U.S Constitution - Fourteenth Amendment - anchor babies and birthright citizenship - original intent - US Constitution

14th Amendment to the U.S Constitution - Fourteenth Amendment - anchor babies and birthright citizenship - original intent - US Constitution, apportionment, slavery slaves citizenship vote

www.14thamendment.us

Post-Civil War reforms focused on injustices to African Americans.
The 14th Amendment was ratified in 1868 to protect the rights of native-born Black Americans, whose rights were being denied as recently-freed slaves.
It was written in a manner so as to prevent state governments from ever denying citizenship to Blacks born in the United States.
But in 1868, the United States had no formal immigration policy, and the authors therefore saw no need to address immigration explicitly in the amendment.
The United States did not limit immigration in 1868 when the Fourteenth Amendment was ratified.
Thus by definition there were no illegal immigrants and the issue of citizenship for children of those here in violation of the law was nonexistent.
The phrase "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" was intended to exclude American-born persons from automatic citizenship whose allegiance to the United States was not complete.
With illegal aliens who are unlawfully in the United States, their native country has a claim of allegiance on the child.
Thus, the completeness of their allegiance to the United States is impaired, which therefore precludes automatic citizenship.

Comment:
Birthright Citizenship was never intended for the children of people who illegally entered our country.
It was intended to protect the children of freed slaves.
It is automatically assumed that Birthright Citizenship includes the children of American citizens.
Therefore if neither of the parents of a child who is born on American soil are American citizens, then that child should not be granted birthright citizenship.

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Buster Keaton said:

Birthright Citizenship was intended to protect the children of freed slaves, not for the children of people who violated or immigration laws.
The word "intent" is a very important word for constitutional legitimacy.

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Buster Keaton said:

14th Amendment to the U.S Constitution - Fourteenth Amendment - anchor babies and birthright citizenship - original intent - US Constitution

14th Amendment to the U.S Constitution - Fourteenth Amendment - anchor babies and birthright citizenship - original intent - US Constitution, apportionment, slavery slaves citizenship vote

www.14thamendment.us

Post-Civil War reforms focused on injustices to African Americans.
The 14th Amendment was ratified in 1868 to protect the rights of native-born Black Americans, whose rights were being denied as recently-freed slaves.
It was written in a manner so as to prevent state governments from ever denying citizenship to Blacks born in the United States.
But in 1868, the United States had no formal immigration policy, and the authors therefore saw no need to address immigration explicitly in the amendment.
The United States did not limit immigration in 1868 when the Fourteenth Amendment was ratified.
Thus by definition there were no illegal immigrants and the issue of citizenship for children of those here in violation of the law was nonexistent.
The phrase "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" was intended to exclude American-born persons from automatic citizenship whose allegiance to the United States was not complete.
With illegal aliens who are unlawfully in the United States, their native country has a claim of allegiance on the child.
Thus, the completeness of their allegiance to the United States is impaired, which therefore precludes automatic citizenship.

Comment:
Birthright Citizenship was never intended for the children of people who illegally entered our country.
It was intended to protect the children of freed slaves.
It is automatically assumed that Birthright Citizenship includes the children of American citizens.
Therefore if neither of the parents of a child who is born on American soil are American citizens, then that child should not be granted birthright citizenship.

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Redress said:

Which of these words is too big for you:



I will be happy to explain in smaller words for you any part you are confused by. I realize you have problems with polysyllabic words.

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Buster Keaton said:

most left wingers are a waste of time
it is clear that birthright citizenship was never intended for people who violated our immigration laws

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Buster Keaton said:

most left wingers are a waste of time
it is clear that birthright citizenship was never intended for people who violated our immigration laws

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Redress said:

The second amendment was intended for muskets...

No, srsly, your argument is really that stupid.

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Buster Keaton said:

14th Amendment to the U.S Constitution - Fourteenth Amendment - anchor babies and birthright citizenship - original intent - US Constitution

14th Amendment to the U.S Constitution - Fourteenth Amendment - anchor babies and birthright citizenship - original intent - US Constitution, apportionment, slavery slaves citizenship vote

www.14thamendment.us

Post-Civil War reforms focused on injustices to African Americans.
The 14th Amendment was ratified in 1868 to protect the rights of native-born Black Americans, whose rights were being denied as recently-freed slaves.
It was written in a manner so as to prevent state governments from ever denying citizenship to Blacks born in the United States.
But in 1868, the United States had no formal immigration policy, and the authors therefore saw no need to address immigration explicitly in the amendment.
The United States did not limit immigration in 1868 when the Fourteenth Amendment was ratified.
Thus by definition there were no illegal immigrants and the issue of citizenship for children of those here in violation of the law was nonexistent.
The phrase "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" was intended to exclude American-born persons from automatic citizenship whose allegiance to the United States was not complete.
With illegal aliens who are unlawfully in the United States, their native country has a claim of allegiance on the child.
Thus, the completeness of their allegiance to the United States is impaired, which therefore precludes automatic citizenship.

Comment:
Birthright Citizenship was never intended for the children of people who illegally entered our country.
It was intended to protect the children of freed slaves.
It is automatically assumed that Birthright Citizenship includes the children of American citizens.
Therefore if neither of the parents of a child who is born on American soil are American citizens, then that child should not be granted birthright citizenship.

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Buster Keaton said:

Birthright Citizenship was intended to protect the children of freed slaves, not for the children of people who violated or immigration laws.
The word "intent" is a very important word for constitutional legitimacy.

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Buster Keaton said:

most left wingers are a waste of time
it is clear that birthright citizenship was never intended for people who violated our immigration laws

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Pyrite said:

It's clear it was intended for ALL persons born or naturalized in the United States.

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Buster Keaton said:

14th Amendment to the U.S Constitution - Fourteenth Amendment - anchor babies and birthright citizenship - original intent - US Constitution

14th Amendment to the U.S Constitution - Fourteenth Amendment - anchor babies and birthright citizenship - original intent - US Constitution, apportionment, slavery slaves citizenship vote

www.14thamendment.us

Post-Civil War reforms focused on injustices to African Americans.
The 14th Amendment was ratified in 1868 to protect the rights of native-born Black Americans, whose rights were being denied as recently-freed slaves.
It was written in a manner so as to prevent state governments from ever denying citizenship to Blacks born in the United States.
But in 1868, the United States had no formal immigration policy, and the authors therefore saw no need to address immigration explicitly in the amendment.
The United States did not limit immigration in 1868 when the Fourteenth Amendment was ratified.
Thus by definition there were no illegal immigrants and the issue of citizenship for children of those here in violation of the law was nonexistent.
The phrase "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" was intended to exclude American-born persons from automatic citizenship whose allegiance to the United States was not complete.
With illegal aliens who are unlawfully in the United States, their native country has a claim of allegiance on the child.
Thus, the completeness of their allegiance to the United States is impaired, which therefore precludes automatic citizenship.

Comment:
Birthright Citizenship was never intended for the children of people who illegally entered our country.
It was intended to protect the children of freed slaves.
It is automatically assumed that Birthright Citizenship includes the children of American citizens.
Therefore if neither of the parents of a child who is born on American soil are American citizens, then that child should not be granted birthright citizenship.

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upsideguy said:

If it is so clear, prove your point. You are the one making this assertion, the onus on you is to back it up. Let's see some expert (legal) opinion that supports your position.

Meanwhile, 2nd amendment proponents cling to the poorly worded 2nd amendment which was never designed to give cover to the use of automatic weapons to effect mass killings of innocents.... though that is another discussion, the same logic is applied....

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Buster Keaton said:

is this too complex?
birthright citizenship is never intended for people who illegally entered our country

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Buster Keaton said:

who was the birthright citizenship clause written for?
you are fighting reality

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Buster Keaton said:

the children of people who illegally entered our country are not naturalized

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Scatty Kitty said:

No it wasn't. While it's certainly important to remember that the 14th amendment was meant specifically to make sure the South during Reconstruction didn't find ways to oppress African Americans. Since all American citizens are endowed with rights, the Reconstruction Republicans wanted to make sure the South couldn't take away African American's citizenship. They knew the only way to do that was to make sure that everyone born in the country, has automatically a citizen, and not something that was subject to the will of the South. What you say when you mean "Reconstruction was for the children of enslaved people" is incredibly short sighted. That's why the Reconstruction Republicans knew to make sure the South couldn't ever strip people of their citizenship again, not only the children of enslaved people, but their grand children, and everyone born in the US could become citizens.

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Buster Keaton said:

who was the birthright citizenship clause written for?
you are fighting reality

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