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No, there were not. The first recognised coronation was that of Aethelstan, 500 years after the Romans left in 450AD. He ruled from 924AD to 939AD.There were many kingdoms in England prior to the Romans....
Right. The Muslims want to commit genocide and the Jews want to live.
Kingdom of Judea... it was not the Palestinians land either... it was the Ottoman's.
There were many kingdoms in England prior to the Romans....
Ethnic Cleansing is not the devastating term you think that you are wielding it is moving people... not slaughtering them.
You are trying a Gotchya over a word? Tribes, nations, lands... people. The debate was about people getting their land back. For ****'s sake.No, there were not. The first recognised coronation was that of Aethelstan, 500 years after the Romans left in 450AD. He ruled from 924AD to 939AD.
They are not innocent but they are far less guilty...So where do the ones who have encouraged and needed each other for political survival come into this picture?
Netanyahu has needed Hamas to exist just as much as Hamas have needed a hardline Govt in Israel.
Retired Israeli general Shlomo Brom described the logic of Netanyahu’s position: “One effective way to prevent a two-state solution is to divide between the Gaza Strip and the West Bank.”
Why Netanyahu bolstered Hamas
Why do people make out that the Israeli Govt is just an innocent party in all this?
Helps make my point. Thank you.Take a hint from the bible - the land that was given to Israel belonged to the Canaanites (also known as Philistines) - whose DNA now runs richly in both Jew and Arab of the region.
Anoth3er one? The argument was about people getting their land back. Tribes. Nations. People... For ****'s Sake.No there weren't. The earliest Kingdoms only came about 6-700 years after the Romans left Britain.
"The Romans brought a great deal of innovation and sophistication to life in Britain, all of which crumbled when they left the land. In the years following the Roman withdrawal, England’s political situation was extremely unstable, as no one had a clear, definitive right to any land. This meant that people resorted to using brute force. So, whoever had the biggest army was able to take the larger, more desirable pieces of land.
The result of this was that, by 650 AD, Britain became a sort of patchwork quilt of different kingdoms. Each individual kingdom was run by its own chieftain (leader), who most likely referred to themselves as the king of their region. There were seven primary kingdoms, which were referred to as the Anglo-Saxon heptarchy. The kingdoms included:
- Bernicia,
- Deira,
- Lindsey,
- East Anglia,
- Mercia,
- Wessex,
- Kent."
It is not Ethnic Cleansing.Funny how "ethnic cleansing" is becoming an OK term. Previously, there was a term called "collective punishment" which also fits what is happening when 2 million people have their homes destroyed because of a terrorist group anywhere between 20,000 and 200,000 strong. Ethnic cleansing is still illegal under international law and the USA has recently discovered it doesn't want to be involved as an enabling partner.
Most people in the west bank want to live.Right. The Muslims want to commit genocide and the Jews want to live.
This is why peace fails.
It is well past time for Israel to be taking shit. Lost of you act like this is a situation without a long and documented past of Muslim invasions and tens of thousands of terrorist attacks... not idea why you ignore the past but the present is hopeless because of the past that you seem to ignore.
I agree... and?Most people in the west bank want to live.
It is not Ethnic Cleansing.
The argument was about people getting their land back. Tribes. Nations. People... For ****'s Sake.
Helps make my point. Thank you.
They are not innocent but they are far less guilty...
But only one started war after war to try and take it all... history is very clear that one were the Arabs and Palestinians.Yeah, but *****'s sake - the land belongs to both of them.
Sure does. No joke. Read it all again in context.No, it doesn't.
I stay away from Conspiracy arguments.****'s sake, they enabled Hamas, with the express purpose of weakening the Palestinian Authority and killing the dream of a Palestinian homeland. That's just as bad.
I stay away from Conspiracy arguments.
I laughed hard at that one.Gonna focus on this. You call it a "conspiracy argument" but how about when the Israeli leader (Netanyahu) says it?
How will you run away from that? Apocalypse calls me an antisemite for pointing out hard truths about Netanyahu and what he is up to, what's your excuse?
A Kingdom is a Kingdom. You claimed there were many kings before the Romans. There were none.You are trying a Gotchya over a word? Tribes, nations, lands... people. The debate was about people getting their land back. For ****'s sake.
The myth book very clearly says the Canaanites are the indigenes. And they are still around.Kingdom of Judea... it was not the Palestinians land either... it was the Ottoman's.
Canaanites were not a nation, they were several tribes who lived in the land and none of those tribes have existed for the past 2,000 years. It's historical truth that Jews have lived in the land and formed their homeland there, denying Jewish history is quite antisemitic and takes out your "I said Israel" excuse.The myth book very clearly says the Canaanites are the indigenes. And they are still around.
Oh ffs, get off this ridiculous 'antisemitic' [sic] bullshit! Ancient Jews were tribal and nomadic too, in case it slipped your mind. Their 'homes' were wherever they pitched their tents that week.Canaanites were not a nation, they were several tribes who lived in the land and none of those tribes have existed for the past 2,000 years. It's historical truth that Jews have lived in the land and formed their homeland there, denying Jewish history is quite antisemitic and takes out your "I said Israel" excuse.
Because Tyre, Sidon, Baalbek and Biblos were just temporary summer encampments and not major metropoli that shaped the whole of the Medi, right?Canaanites were not a nation, they were several tribes who lived in the land and none of those tribes have existed for the past 2,000 years. It's historical truth that Jews have lived in the land and formed their homeland there, denying Jewish history is quite antisemitic and takes out your "I said Israel" excuse.
You haven't pointed out any hard truths and it sounds like you have trouble processing politics. Sounds like his policies helped tons go Gazans.Gonna focus on this. You call it a "conspiracy argument" but how about when the Israeli leader (Netanyahu) says it?
How will you run away from that? Apocalypse calls me an antisemite for pointing out hard truths about Netanyahu and what he is up to, what's your excuse?
This Red Herring tactic is weak as shit...A Kingdom is a Kingdom. You claimed there were many kings before the Romans. There were none.
So what? Neanderthals were there first... it is their land and they want it back.The myth book very clearly says the Canaanites are the indigenes. And they are still around.
How is this bad?
So what? Neanderthals were there first... it is their land and they want it back.This Red Herring tactic is weak as shit
Oh ffs, get off this ridiculous 'antisemitic' [sic] bullshit!
You still are not debating or presenting facts... now all you are doing is tossing out some veiled ad homs and trying to be condescending.I'm willing to bet money if I searched your post history, you'll have said "if only the Palestinians took the path of peace" or "if only they had accepted Israel's right to exist"
Palestinian Authority on peace 1: link
Palestinian Authority on accepting Israel's right to exist 2: link
So guess what that article points out? I can do this in baby steps for you.
What was the argument that I was making?Speaking of "weak as shit arguments."
Well, they "pitched their tents" and formed the Kingdom of Judea with kings Solomon and David...Oh ffs, get off this ridiculous 'antisemitic' [sic] bullshit! Ancient Jews were tribal and nomadic too, in case it slipped your mind. Their 'homes' were wherever they pitched their tents that week.
Nomadism
Encyclopedia of Jewish and Israeli history, politics and culture, with biographies, statistics, articles and documents on topics from anti-Semitism to Zionism.www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org
You still are not debating or presenting facts
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