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Binary_Digit said:It's about damn time too. Now if only he would explain why Cheney wanted the CIA to be exempt from this. Being an open critic of this administration, and considering that torture was my biggest problem with this administration, I figure he deserves kudos for finally realizing that torture is wrong. Baby steps, I guess...
"We do not torture [anymore]." - George W. Bush
FinnMacCool said:Wow it seems like Bush can make a decent decesion, at least once in awhile.
However, I still don't think this will stop detainee torture.
FinnMacCool said:Wow it seems like Bush can make a decent decesion, at least once in awhile.
However, I still don't think this will stop detainee torture.
Nope, there will always be a soldier that bi*ch slaps a prisoner because he lost a friend, oh well, what can you do?
There's always going to be random cases of torture and those responsible will be prosecuted under the law.
FinnMacCool said:I'm not talking about bitch slappiing. I'm talking about torture.
According to the new law, that is torture.
So why do we need to use it? Some of the worst intel surrounding this war was likely produced from torture. The victim says whatever he/she thinks will make the pain stop, does not matter if it's factually correct.Deegan said:Of course torture does not work most of the time
FinnMacCool said:Wow it seems like Bush can make a decent decesion, at least once in awhile.
However, I still don't think this will stop detainee torture.
He did, but it looks like he has flip-flopped. :2razz:scottyz said:I thought he had vowed to veto McCains anti-torture bill.
He did, but it looks like he has flip-flopped
Binary_Digit said:I didn't mean to negate the significance of this. Like I said this is my biggest Bush complaint resolved. What I meant was, it should have been obvious to any casual baboon that torture is wrong. Since this wasn't obvious to Bush, for such a long time, I assumed his morals are in still in the infantcy stage. :2razz:
There has definitely been a shift in strategy. I'm sure it has more to do with low approval ratings than religion.tryreading said:Bush is now against torture, and, what a miracle, he took responsibility for something this week. Do you think he's getting religion?
tryreading said:Bush is now against torture, and, what a miracle, he took responsibility for something this week. Do you think he's getting religion?
Iriemon said:What did he take responsibility for? Other than fixing other people's mistakes?
scottyz said:There has definitely been a shift in strategy. I'm sure it has more to do with low approval ratings than religion.
Binary_Digit said:Thank you Bush for coming to your senses about SOMETHING!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051215/ap_on_go_pr_wh/congress_detainees
"WASHINGTON - President Bush reversed course on Thursday and accepted Sen. John McCain's call for a law banning cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment of foreign suspects in the war on terror.
Bush said the agreement will "make it clear to the world that this government does not torture and that we adhere to the international convention of torture, whether it be here at home or abroad."
"It's a done deal," said McCain, talking to reporters in a driving rain outside the White House after he met with the president."
It's about damn time too. Now if only he would explain why Cheney wanted the CIA to be exempt from this. Being an open critic of this administration, and considering that torture was my biggest problem with this administration, I figure he deserves kudos for finally realizing that torture is wrong. Baby steps, I guess...
"We do not torture [anymore]." - George W. Bush
Iriemon said:What did he take responsibility for? Other than fixing other people's mistakes?
Yes, but he's playing the victim and blaming everything on the intelligence community. Nope, Bush's Office of Special Plans and the torture of detainees didn't lead to any bad intelligence. It was all the CIA's fault. :2wave:Pacridge said:Didn't he take responsibility for going to war on faulty intelligence?
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=1406256
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