Texas Imam who supports Trump states that Temp Ban on Muslim Immigration Wise/Needed

[Kurmugeon]

SHOCK: TX Imam Who Supports Trump Issues Warning on Radical Islam? Mosque Demands He Resign | John Hawkins' Right Wing News

SHOCK: TX Imam Who Supports Trump Issues Warning on Radical Islam… Mosque Demands He Resign

Dec, 2015 by Terresa Monroe-Hamilton

Imam Nidal Alsayyed came out in support of Donald Trump’s ban on Muslim immigration until adequate vetting can be done to protect our nation from terrorists. He said Trump’s plan was wise. That took a level of courage that I truly respect. For having the courage of his convictions, the mosque immediately demanded his resignation. The imam complied. I fear his life may now be in danger simply because he said what he thought was right and prudent. Nidal supports a moratorium on all immigration until we can put a system in place to check and track people coming into the US. That’s sane and common sense if you want to survive as a nation that is.



From TheBlaze:

After Nidal Alsayyed, an imam at a mosque in Beaufort, Texas, came out in favor of Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump’s plan to ban all Muslims from entering the country, Alsayyed said he left his post at the mosque following a demand for his resignation.

In an exclusive interview with KBMT-TV on Monday, the imam said he sees Trump’s plan as “wise.”

“I certainly see it to be wise [to] stop temporarily accepting any new Muslim immigrants (refugees and non-refugees) into the United States,” Alsayyed said. “[Islam] is based on the fact that we can hardly distinguish who is Muslim and who is not. Islam is not about an ID card or last name or shouting ‘Allahu Akbar.’”

“I certainly see it to be wise [to] stop temporarily accepting any new Muslim immigrants (refugees and non-refugees) into the United States,” Alsayyed stated. “[Islam] is based on the fact that we can hardly distinguish who is Muslim and who is not. Islam is not about an ID card or last name or shouting ‘Allahu Akbar.’” Exactly right. This imam does not want terrorists here either. His words went viral and the imam was interviewed by Sean Hannity. He was the religious director at the Islamic Center of Triplex. Alsayyed received a call in the middle of the night from a board member who demanded he resign immediately over his statements. You see, he didn’t conform and now he is being disciplined for it. He is a “moderate” Islamic scholar who believes in practicing the “peaceful branch” of Islam. The imam has been a teacher in his faith since 1989. Above all he is considering the safety and peace of the American people. Too bad our leaders won’t listen to him.

Too Bad that the MSM will ignore the story, and/or slander and misrepresent it.

But, this small bright spot of sanety among American-Muslims gives me great hope that we might actually be able to stop the Radicals and their violence, if we can acknowledge and expand this brave Imam's outreach to non-Muslim America.

Will the Radical Muslim's now assassinate this Imam?

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[spud_meister]

Re: Texas Imam who supports Trump states that Temp Ban on Muslim Immigration Wise/Nee

Nidal supports a moratorium on all immigration until we can put a system in place to check and track people coming into the US

Yeah, if someone at an organisation I belonged to said that anyone should be denied their 1st and 4th amendment just for ****s and giggles, I'd call for their resignation too.

 

[celticwar17]

Re: Texas Imam who supports Trump states that Temp Ban on Muslim Immigration Wise/Nee

Yeah, if someone at an organisation I belonged to said that anyone should be denied their 1st and 4th amendment just for ****s and giggles, I'd call for their resignation too.

Wait... whether you agree with the policy or not...The constitution has nothing to do with people outside the US...

 

[spud_meister]

Re: Texas Imam who supports Trump states that Temp Ban on Muslim Immigration Wise/Nee

Wait... whether you agree with the policy or not...The constitution has nothing to do with people outside the US...

Firstly, he's saying ban Muslims from entering the US. How do you determine if someone is a Muslim without letting them on US soil? Secondly, he's then saying Muslims should be tracked once in the US, violating the 4th.

 

[celticwar17]

Re: Texas Imam who supports Trump states that Temp Ban on Muslim Immigration Wise/Nee

Firstly, he's saying ban Muslims from entering the US. How do you determine if someone is a Muslim without letting them on US soil? Secondly, he's then saying Muslims should be tracked once in the US, violating the 4th.

What? Just because you are trying to get into the country through immigration doesn't mean your on home base in a game of tag xD lol...Your status is not a legal resident.... supreme court has already ruled

The FBI tracks tons of people... muslims wouldn't be the first to have that violation..

 

[Kurmugeon]

Re: Texas Imam who supports Trump states that Temp Ban on Muslim Immigration Wise/Nee

What? Just because you are trying to get into the country through immigration doesn't mean your on home base in a game of tag xD lol...Your status is not a legal resident.... supreme court has already ruled

The FBI tracks tons of people... muslims wouldn't be the first to have that violation..

Islam is far, far, more than just a Religion. It has, buried deep inside of it, a Psuedo-Christian Religion, but it is much more comprehensive.

Islam is a package-deal; Social Customs, Civil Law, Tax Policy, Penal Code, Art, Music, Architecture, Social Holidays and Celebrations, Dietary Edicts, Military Doctrine, Social Taboos, Rules for Distribution of Conquest Loot, Rules for Gender Roles, Rules for Slavery, Rules for Public Capital Punishment....

Islam cannot have a separation of Church and State within Islam, the two are integrally melded at every possible level!

Islam was a System defined in the medieval era to facilitate an Empire of Conquest and Enslavement.

As such, it has very thorough structures to squelch decent and rebellion.

Unlike Christianity, Islam never had a period of Luther Reformation. There has never been an Islamic Magna Carta.


Trump's Ban would not be a ban on a Religion, it would be a ban on a Political-Group which openly advocates destruction of the United States Constitutional Government to replace it with a radical Conquest Empire Government.

U.S. Immigration Law, from the 1952 8 U.S. Code § 1182 - Inadmissible aliens, section A iii specially states that groups of Foreigners who openly plan to subvert or overthrow the U.S. Government cannot be allowed into the United States.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1182

(a) Classes of aliens ineligible for visas or admissionExcept as otherwise provided in this chapter, aliens who are inadmissible under the following paragraphs are ineligible to receive visas and ineligible to be admitted to the United States:
(1) Health-related grounds
(A) In generalAny alien—
(i) who is determined (in accordance with regulations prescribed by the Secretary of Health and Human Services) to have a communicable disease of public health significance; [1]
(ii) except as provided in subparagraph (C), who seeks admission as an immigrant, or who seeks adjustment of status to the status of an alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence, and who has failed to present documentation of having received vaccination against vaccine-preventable diseases, which shall include at least the following diseases: mumps, measles, rubella, polio, tetanus and diphtheria toxoids, pertussis, influenza type B and hepatitis B, and any other vaccinations against vaccine-preventable diseases recommended by the Advisory Committee for Immunization Practices,
(iii) who is determined (in accordance with regulations prescribed by the Secretary of Health and Human Services in consultation with the Attorney General)—
(I) to have a physical or mental disorder and behavior associated with the disorder that may pose, or has posed, a threat to the property, safety, or welfare of the alien or others, or
(II) to have had a physical or mental disorder and a history of behavior associated with the disorder, which behavior has posed a threat to the property, safety, or welfare of the alien or others and which behavior is likely to recur or to lead to other harmful behavior, or
(iv) who is determined (in accordance with regulations prescribed by the Secretary of Health and Human Services) to be a drug abuser or addict,
is inadmissible.

It is against existing U.S. Law to allow Radical Muslims into the United States.

In the recent spate of Muslim Terror attacks, 911, Boston Marathon, San Bernardino, we have seen that we do not currently have a system which can separate the Radical Muslims, from the Non-Radical Muslims, therefore, for the National Security of the United States, we need to temporarily ban ALL Muslims from Immigrating.

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[Kurmugeon]

Re: Texas Imam who supports Trump states that Temp Ban on Muslim Immigration Wise/Nee

Here is a video example of the kind of Problem a Trump Ban would prevent:

https://youtu.be/n8iNJzy0e6w



The Democratic Party's War on Women.

 

[Captain Adverse]

Re: Texas Imam who supports Trump states that Temp Ban on Muslim Immigration Wise/Nee

If nothing else this simply proves that like any other religion, Islam is NOT a unified belief system.

There will be members who agree with militant ideologies like ISIS, and other's who disagree and simply want to worship in peace.

 

[Kurmugeon]

Re: Texas Imam who supports Trump states that Temp Ban on Muslim Immigration Wise/Nee

If nothing else this simply proves that like any other religion, Islam is NOT a unified belief system.

There will be members who agree with militant ideologies like ISIS, and other's who disagree and simply want to worship in peace.

For the Protection of the American People, and our National Security, until we have a reliable means of separating the two, we should not allow ANY Muslim Immigration.

This is common sense survival for Nations in the 2015 Era.

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[Kurmugeon]

Re: Texas Imam who supports Trump states that Temp Ban on Muslim Immigration Wise/Nee

Here is another section of the Immigration Law dealing with Terrorism:

(B) Terrorist activities
(i) In generalAny alien who—
(I)
has engaged in a terrorist activity;
(II)
a consular officer, the Attorney General, or the Secretary of Homeland Security knows, or has reasonable ground to believe, is engaged in or is likely to engage after entry in any terrorist activity (as defined in clause (iv));
(III)
has, under circumstances indicating an intention to cause death or serious bodily harm, incited terrorist activity;
(IV) is a representative (as defined in clause (v)) of—
(aa)
a terrorist organization (as defined in clause (vi)); or
(bb)
a political, social, or other group that endorses or espouses terrorist activity;
(V)
is a member of a terrorist organization described in subclause (I) or (II) of clause (vi);
(VI)
is a member of a terrorist organization described in clause (vi)(III), unless the alien can demonstrate by clear and convincing evidence that the alien did not know, and should not reasonably have known, that the organization was a terrorist organization;
(VII)
endorses or espouses terrorist activity or persuades others to endorse or espouse terrorist activity or support a terrorist organization;
(VIII)
has received military-type training (as defined in section 2339D(c)(1) of title 18) from or on behalf of any organization that, at the time the training was received, was a terrorist organization (as defined in clause (vi)); or
(IX)
is the spouse or child of an alien who is inadmissible under this subparagraph, if the activity causing the alien to be found inadmissible occurred within the last 5 years,
  is inadmissible. An alien who is an officer, official, representative, or spokesman of the Palestine Liberation Organization is considered, for purposes of this chapter, to be engaged in a terrorist activity.
(ii) ExceptionSubclause (IX) of clause (i) does not apply to a spouse or child—
(I)
who did not know or should not reasonably have known of the activity causing the alien to be found inadmissible under this section; or
(II)
whom the consular officer or Attorney General has reasonable grounds to believe has renounced the activity causing the alien to be found inadmissible under this section.
(iii) “Terrorist activity” definedAs used in this chapter, the term “terrorist activity” means any activity which is unlawful under the laws of the place where it is committed (or which, if it had been committed in the United States, would be unlawful under the laws of the United States or any State) and which involves any of the following:
(I)
The highjacking or sabotage of any conveyance (including an aircraft, vessel, or vehicle).
(II)
The seizing or detaining, and threatening to kill, injure, or continue to detain, another individual in order to compel a third person (including a governmental organization) to do or abstain from doing any act as an explicit or implicit condition for the release of the individual seized or detained.
(III)
A violent attack upon an internationally protected person (as defined in section 1116(b)(4) of title 18) or upon the liberty of such a person.
(IV)
An assassination.
(V) The use of any—
(a)
biological agent, chemical agent, or nuclear weapon or device, or
(b)
explosive, firearm, or other weapon or dangerous device (other than for mere personal monetary gain),
   with intent to endanger, directly or indirectly, the safety of one or more individuals or to cause substantial damage to property.
(VI)
A threat, attempt, or conspiracy to do any of the foregoing.
(iv) “Engage in terrorist activity” definedAs used in this chapter, the term “engage in terrorist activity” means, in an individual capacity or as a member of an organization—
(I)
to commit or to incite to commit, under circumstances indicating an intention to cause death or serious bodily injury, a terrorist activity;
(II)
to prepare or plan a terrorist activity;
(III)
to gather information on potential targets for terrorist activity;
(IV) to solicit funds or other things of value for—
(aa)
a terrorist activity;
(bb)
a terrorist organization described in clause (vi)(I) or (vi)(II); or
(cc)
a terrorist organization described in clause (vi)(III), unless the solicitor can demonstrate by clear and convincing evidence that he did not know, and should not reasonably have known, that the organization was a terrorist organization;
(V) to solicit any individual—
(aa)
to engage in conduct otherwise described in this subsection;
(bb)
...

 

[Kurmugeon]

Re: Texas Imam who supports Trump states that Temp Ban on Muslim Immigration Wise/Nee

Larry Kudlow is an American conservative economist, television personality, and newspaper columnist.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Kudlow



He has changed his mind, and now support the Trump Ban:

Larry Kudlow Seal Borders Stop Visas

I’ve Changed. This Is War. Seal the Borders. Stop the Visas.

by Larry Kudlow December 11, 2015 7:00 PM

A hardline shift from an immigration reformer. I know this is not my usual position. But this is a war. Therefore I have come to believe there should be no immigration or visa waivers until the U.S. adopts a completely new system to stop radical Islamic terrorists from entering the country. A wartime lockdown. And a big change in my thinking. ISIS and related Islamic terrorists are already here. More are coming. We must stop them. Until FBI director James Comey gives us the green light, I say seal the borders.

Here’s what we must do: Completely reform the vetting process for immigrants and foreign visitors. Change the screening process. Come up with a new visa-application review process. Stop this nonsense of marriage-visa fraud. And in the meantime, seal the borders. I agree with Jessica Vaughn, director of policy studies at the Center for Immigration Studies, who argued many of these points in excellent detail on the National Review website on Friday.

Again, why am I taking this hardline position? In the past I have been an immigration reformer, not a restrictionist. But we are at war. That changes everything. Let me emphasize that ...

 

[Kurmugeon]

Re: Texas Imam who supports Trump states that Temp Ban on Muslim Immigration Wise/Nee

A comment from another forum:

Muslims have many things that are not compatible with western civilization and the United States, Unless they can separate dhimmitude from from their religion, I will not recognize their "religion" as simply that. Our Constitution protects religion, but it does not protect a package of religion+dhimmitude.

If a group of Irish Catholics were coming into America, stating openly that they planned to over throw the U.S. Constitutional Government, and replace it with a Catholic based Government which was led by an Immaculate Pope...

A Religious group which has ONLY a Religion as its motivation, can be banned for advocating the overthrow of the Government, or the denial of existing American Citizen's their Bill of Rights freedoms.

In the Case of Islam, we are currently at World WAR with Radical Islam.

Additionally, Islam is the Package-Deal.

All three of these issues, the WAR, the Package Deal, and the open claims to overthrown the U.S. are huge problems with many Muslim Immigrants.

We do not NEED more people in America at all. We certainly do not need people who are penniless and have a long history of violence and war.

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[Kurmugeon]

Re: Texas Imam who supports Trump states that Temp Ban on Muslim Immigration Wise/Nee

Early in his career of Religious Reformation, Martin Luther was ousted from his position as well.

Thomas Becket was executed for his opposition.

And what DID Jesus do?

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[tosca1]

Re: Texas Imam who supports Trump states that Temp Ban on Muslim Immigration Wise/Nee

SHOCK: TX Imam Who Supports Trump Issues Warning on Radical Islam? Mosque Demands He Resign | John Hawkins' Right Wing News

Too Bad that the MSM will ignore the story, and/or slander and misrepresent it.

But, this small bright spot of sanety among American-Muslims gives me great hope that we might actually be able to stop the Radicals and their violence, if we can acknowledge and expand this brave Imam's outreach to non-Muslim America.

Will the Radical Muslim's now assassinate this Imam?

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Non-radical Muslims like the Imam above are wise to come out and endorse what Trump has been proposing. It's for their own protection!

 

[tosca1]

Re: Texas Imam who supports Trump states that Temp Ban on Muslim Immigration Wise/Nee

Yeah, if someone at an organisation I belonged to said that anyone should be denied their 1st and 4th amendment just for ****s and giggles, I'd call for their resignation too.

Without mulling it over and understanding why he'd say that?

Who do you think gets caught in the middle, and gets lashed at by the public? What's looming down the road?


Anyway, a state of emergency can just as easily deny everyone's rights. Take your pick.

 

[tosca1]

Re: Texas Imam who supports Trump states that Temp Ban on Muslim Immigration Wise/Nee

Firstly, he's saying ban Muslims from entering the US. How do you determine if someone is a Muslim without letting them on US soil?

That's up to Intelligence and the system to determine. How do you screen immigrants?

Secondly, he's then saying Muslims should be tracked once in the US, violating the 4th.

What possible scenarios are likely to happen if things get out of hand, terror-wise?

 

[tosca1]

Re: Texas Imam who supports Trump states that Temp Ban on Muslim Immigration Wise/Nee

If nothing else this simply proves that like any other religion, Islam is NOT a unified belief system.

There will be members who agree with militant ideologies like ISIS, and other's who disagree and simply want to worship in peace.

And for their own sake, they have to come out and support Trump's proposal. That's one good way to show the nation that despite being Muslims,
they condemn those terror acts and radicalization.

They have to come right out and wear their allegiance on their sleeves!

 

[Kurmugeon]

Re: Texas Imam who supports Trump states that Temp Ban on Muslim Immigration Wise/Nee

What amazes me, is that progressives on this thread seem to say that they believe having the Government track the activities of Immigrants into our country, during a time of World War, when they come from the Country / Political-Group whom we are at war with, is unreasonable.

It is a violation of their 4th Amendment Rights... Yet they are NOT (Yet) Citizens, and therefore not granted the Rights of Citizens...

But more, they feel that ALL U.S. Citizens should need to Register any purchase/sale of a firearm with the Government, if they are to be allowed to have a gun at all.

In other words, they want to trust and allow adversarial foreigners some of whom we are at war with MORE than they want to trust Citizen's Born in America.

and Most Likely, it is All for a few more fraud votes.

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[Kurmugeon]

Re: Texas Imam who supports Trump states that Temp Ban on Muslim Immigration Wise/Nee

Keep in mind that not ALL Muslims support the kinds of fetishes and showmanship in executions and beheadings seen in the ISIS crazies.

The kind of death fetishes seen in burning a caged man to death, or taking vanity photos of screaming insults at the shaken headless corpses of small children...

This kinds bizarre behavior, which is similar to the death-fetishes of the Holocaust death camps, making lamps shades of human skin, is not found among most Muslims.

The bad Muslims really are a small minority of all Muslims, and almost never found among the Muslims born in America!

A few of the problems are:

1] the radicalization seems to spread, when foreign radical Muslims come into contact with American born Muslims, and especially among American Converted non-Muslims.

2] We cannot tell which foreign Muslims are radicalized, and which are not

3] They have far, far higher birth rates than non-Muslim Americans.

4] Even the non-Radicalized, American Born Muslims often support separate Sharia Courts, restrictive dress codes, and Jizya taxes on non-Muslims.

5] Bringing ANY penniless, ignorant, dependent foreigners into America is extremely expensive, and they take jobs from Americans, and drive down wages


What is the benefit to American Citizens?

Why do we need any more people in America from foreign sources at all?

What Benefit from any Immigrants is worth the Huge Costs to the Native Born Americans, in both taxes and blood?



The Imam in the OP may well end up being one of several historical figures which act in the same way that Martin Luther did, leading year 2000 Islam into a reformation, causing it to abandon many of their radical death-fetishes and support for things like slavery and conquest loot.

But that process will take decades, and costs tens of thousands of American lives!

And that very same process could take place, with these same "Syrian Refugees" still in their home countries in Africa and the Middle East.

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