Navy Pride
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There is nothing to defend. I'm sure they are all embarrassed.
P.S. Soliders have killed needlessly in Iraq. Let's not pretend that such has not occurred.
And your proof is...where?
Oh yeah, you don't have any. Like Murtha, you don't believe in innocent until proven guilty...you just convict on rumor and innuendo. Pray you are never accused of something you didn't do based on rumor...your attitude might come back to bite you in the a$$.
BubbaBob
Sorry APS, but that is not proof. People "plea bargain" to something they didn't do every day. That means that they would rather take a known lesser punishment than chance a harsher punishment if convicted, despite their being innocent...and given the way this war has been demonized, I'd probably do the same thing despite the fact I've never been in Iraq.
People often confess to crimes they didn't commit for other reasons as well.
I said proof. What proof...evidence...do you have?
Ah...there I go again...asking a question I already know the answer to (no proof), of a liberal...the group so out of touch with logic they couldn't define the word with the help of a dictionery.
BubbaBob
Oh, so can you PROVE that in these cases that these soldiers pled guilty to crimes they didn't commit? Yeah, BubbaWubbaBob, I didn't think so. :roll:
P.S. you spelled dictionary incorrectly. LOL
Pssst...APS...you've obviously forgotten that this is the United States with a few inconveniences to liberals like the constitution...you remember don't you...back in elementary school when you heard a phrase you have gotten out of touch with..."innocent until PROVEN guilty".
A plea bargain does not constitute "proven guilty"...evidence does, and you have none...also, in this country, the government has to prove you guilty, you don't have to prove yourself innocent. A little detail you liberals find disconcerting.
BTW...I just checked the Webster's Dictionery...both spellings are acceptable, and MY spelling is what's on the cover of the dictionEry. Sorry...you lose again.
BubbaBob
You can spin it however you want, BubbaBob. :rofl
Out of arguments, eh? I'm not surprised...you didn't have any valid ones to start with anyway.
BubbaBob
Pleading guilty is pleading guilty. That's all there is to it. These guys did not plead "nolo contendere." Just FYI. Maybe you should read up on how these pleas differ. Let me help you out.
FindLaw for Legal Professionals - Case Law, Federal and State Resources, Forms, and Code
US Constitution Annotated - Guilty Pleas
Before lecturing someone on how the law works, perhaps your education on such matters ought to equal theirs.
Brown Univ, class of '72...double degree in Econ and Poli Sci.
Northwestern Univ Law School, class of '75...5th in class.
Sorry...try again.
BubbaBob
Oh yeah, I'm real embarrassed.
Honestly, Navy Pride, this isn't anything remotely interesting or "breaking news." Sorry. *yawn*
P.S. Soliders have killed needlessly in Iraq. Let's not pretend that such has not occurred.
Yeah but you don't call them murderers before they have even be charged or indicted like your buddy did.......That is the difference......
I hope you weren't surprizedThe purpose of the article is to bash Murtha in order to prop up the Iraq war. A Republican said nearly the same thing:
"This was a small number of Marines who fired directly on civilians and killed them," said Representative John Kline, a Minnesota Republican and former Marine who was briefed two weeks ago by Marine Corps officials. "This is going to be an ugly story."
The Shame of Haditha | TIME
Article said:The Thomas More Law Center of Ann Arbor, Mich., say they are representing Lt. Col. Jeffrey Chessani
Article said:...said Brian Rooney, one of two Thomas More Law Center attorneys on the case. The other is Robert Muise
Article said:...Rooney said
Article said:...Rooney said
Article said:... said Muise
Article said:...said Richard Thompson, president of the Thomas More Law Center.
Article said:...said Lt. Col. Jon Shelburne, a military member of the defense team.
Article said:...said Thompson
Article said:...Thompson said
Murther never called these men "cold-blooded murderers" as the 'WorldNetDaily'.:roll:. quoted him as saying.Article said:Murtha, chairman of the House military appropriations subcommittee, has publicly accused Marines of being "cold-blooded murderers"
So when you called President Clinton a RAPIST what does that say about you?Yeah but you don't call them murderers before they have even be charged or indicted like your buddy did.......That is the difference......
What a bunch of BULLSHIT! A giant pile of BULLSHIT! This partisan site that posted this partisan article only quotes the defense attorney! Nowhere have these soldiers been exonerated or found not guilty!I am sure everyone remembers what Murtha said about our troops in Iraq about this incident....He had them tried and convicted before they were even charged....Well he was wrong...........JUST SHUT UP MURTHA!!!!
WorldNetDaily: Testimony leaves Murtha allegations wilting
Officers defend Marines accused of killing civilians in Iraq ambush
Posted: April 4, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern
Six officers and a senior enlisted Marine have given sworn statements that there was nothing they saw or heard about a firefight in Iraq in 2005 that would make them think any Marine purposely killed Iraqi civilians, according to a law firm investigating the case.
The Thomas More Law Center, which is defending Chessani, a Colorado Marine, at no cost, said his maximum punishment could be dismissal, loss of retirement and three years in prison. He successfully directed his soldiers through the Haditha ambush, but then got caught in U.S. Rep. John Murtha's firefight of words as the anti-war congressman tried to capitalize on the situation.
Murtha, chairman of the House military appropriations subcommittee, has publicly accused Marines of being "cold-blooded murderers" and officers of covering it up. Thompson said that taint is what the lawyers now are trying to remove from the case.
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