Testimony leaves Murtha allegations wilting

[Navy Pride]

I am sure everyone remembers what Murtha said about our troops in Iraq about this incident....He had them tried and convicted before they were even charged....Well he was wrong...........JUST SHUT UP MURTHA!!!!
WorldNetDaily: Testimony leaves Murtha allegations wilting

Officers defend Marines accused of killing civilians in Iraq ambush

Posted: April 4, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern


Six officers and a senior enlisted Marine have given sworn statements that there was nothing they saw or heard about a firefight in Iraq in 2005 that would make them think any Marine purposely killed Iraqi civilians, according to a law firm investigating the case.

The Thomas More Law Center, which is defending Chessani, a Colorado Marine, at no cost, said his maximum punishment could be dismissal, loss of retirement and three years in prison. He successfully directed his soldiers through the Haditha ambush, but then got caught in U.S. Rep. John Murtha's firefight of words as the anti-war congressman tried to capitalize on the situation.

Murtha, chairman of the House military appropriations subcommittee, has publicly accused Marines of being "cold-blooded murderers" and officers of covering it up. Thompson said that taint is what the lawyers now are trying to remove from the case.

 

[Navy Pride]

Come on all you Liberals, 20 people viewed this thread....Where is your defense of Murtha?

 

[CurrentAffairs]

There is nothing to defend. I'm sure they are all embarrassed.

 

[aps]

There is nothing to defend. I'm sure they are all embarrassed.

Oh yeah, I'm real embarrassed.

Honestly, Navy Pride, this isn't anything remotely interesting or "breaking news." Sorry. *yawn*

P.S. Soliders have killed needlessly in Iraq. Let's not pretend that such has not occurred.

 

[BubbaBob]

P.S. Soliders have killed needlessly in Iraq. Let's not pretend that such has not occurred.

And your proof is...where?

Oh yeah, you don't have any. Like Murtha, you don't believe in innocent until proven guilty...you just convict on rumor and innuendo. Pray you are never accused of something you didn't do based on rumor...your attitude might come back to bite you in the a$$.

BubbaBob

 

[aps]

And your proof is...where?

Oh yeah, you don't have any. Like Murtha, you don't believe in innocent until proven guilty...you just convict on rumor and innuendo. Pray you are never accused of something you didn't do based on rumor...your attitude might come back to bite you in the a$$.

BubbaBob

Rather than wait to see if I provide proof after YOUR asking for it, you assume there is none? Don't forget that when you assume, you make an a$$ out of you.


Marine Pleads Guilty To Murdering Iraqi, Corporal Is Fifth Member Of Squad To Plead Guilty In Shooting Death Of Civilian - CBS News

Soldier pleads guilty in Iraqi killings - Conflict in Iraq - MSNBC.com

 

[BubbaBob]

Sorry APS, but that is not proof. People "plea bargain" to something they didn't do every day. That means that they would rather take a known lesser punishment than chance a harsher punishment if convicted, despite their being innocent...and given the way this war has been demonized, I'd probably do the same thing despite the fact I've never been in Iraq.

People often confess to crimes they didn't commit for other reasons as well.

I said proof. What proof...evidence...do you have?

Ah...there I go again...asking a question I already know the answer to (no proof), of a liberal...the group so out of touch with logic they couldn't define the word with the help of a dictionery.

BubbaBob

 

[aps]

Sorry APS, but that is not proof. People "plea bargain" to something they didn't do every day. That means that they would rather take a known lesser punishment than chance a harsher punishment if convicted, despite their being innocent...and given the way this war has been demonized, I'd probably do the same thing despite the fact I've never been in Iraq.

People often confess to crimes they didn't commit for other reasons as well.

I said proof. What proof...evidence...do you have?

Ah...there I go again...asking a question I already know the answer to (no proof), of a liberal...the group so out of touch with logic they couldn't define the word with the help of a dictionery.

BubbaBob

Oh, so can you PROVE that in these cases that these soldiers pled guilty to crimes they didn't commit? Yeah, BubbaWubbaBob, I didn't think so. :roll:

P.S. you spelled dictionary incorrectly. LOL

 

[BubbaBob]

Oh, so can you PROVE that in these cases that these soldiers pled guilty to crimes they didn't commit? Yeah, BubbaWubbaBob, I didn't think so. :roll:

P.S. you spelled dictionary incorrectly. LOL

Pssst...APS...you've obviously forgotten that this is the United States with a few inconveniences to liberals like the constitution...you remember don't you...back in elementary school when you heard a phrase you have gotten out of touch with..."innocent until PROVEN guilty".

A plea bargain does not constitute "proven guilty"...evidence does, and you have none...also, in this country, the government has to prove you guilty, you don't have to prove yourself innocent. A little detail you liberals find disconcerting.

BTW...I just checked the Webster's Dictionery...both spellings are acceptable, and MY spelling is what's on the cover of the dictionEry. Sorry...you lose again.

BubbaBob

 

[aps]

Pssst...APS...you've obviously forgotten that this is the United States with a few inconveniences to liberals like the constitution...you remember don't you...back in elementary school when you heard a phrase you have gotten out of touch with..."innocent until PROVEN guilty".

A plea bargain does not constitute "proven guilty"...evidence does, and you have none...also, in this country, the government has to prove you guilty, you don't have to prove yourself innocent. A little detail you liberals find disconcerting.

BTW...I just checked the Webster's Dictionery...both spellings are acceptable, and MY spelling is what's on the cover of the dictionEry. Sorry...you lose again.

BubbaBob

You can spin it however you want, BubbaBob. :rofl

 

[BubbaBob]

You can spin it however you want, BubbaBob. :rofl

Out of arguments, eh? I'm not surprised...you didn't have any valid ones to start with anyway.

BubbaBob

 

[aps]

Out of arguments, eh? I'm not surprised...you didn't have any valid ones to start with anyway.

BubbaBob

Pleading guilty is pleading guilty. That's all there is to it. These guys did not plead "nolo contendere." Just FYI. Maybe you should read up on how these pleas differ. Let me help you out.

FindLaw for Legal Professionals - Case Law, Federal and State Resources, Forms, and Code

US Constitution Annotated - Guilty Pleas

 

[BubbaBob]

Pleading guilty is pleading guilty. That's all there is to it. These guys did not plead "nolo contendere." Just FYI. Maybe you should read up on how these pleas differ. Let me help you out.

FindLaw for Legal Professionals - Case Law, Federal and State Resources, Forms, and Code

US Constitution Annotated - Guilty Pleas

Before lecturing someone on how the law works, perhaps your education on such matters ought to equal theirs.

Brown Univ, class of '72...double degree in Econ and Poli Sci.

Northwestern Univ Law School, class of '75...5th in class.

Sorry...try again.

BubbaBob

 

[aps]

Before lecturing someone on how the law works, perhaps your education on such matters ought to equal theirs.

Brown Univ, class of '72...double degree in Econ and Poli Sci.

Northwestern Univ Law School, class of '75...5th in class.

Sorry...try again.

BubbaBob

LOL So you don't have a response for me, do you, BubbaBob? I love it!

 

[Navy Pride]

Oh yeah, I'm real embarrassed.

Honestly, Navy Pride, this isn't anything remotely interesting or "breaking news." Sorry. *yawn*

P.S. Soliders have killed needlessly in Iraq. Let's not pretend that such has not occurred.

Yeah but you don't call them murderers before they have even be charged or indicted like your buddy did.......That is the difference......

 

[TheNextEra]

Yeah but you don't call them murderers before they have even be charged or indicted like your buddy did.......That is the difference......

How many people accused Kerry of being a traitor when he wasn't charged or indicted. Again, gotta love the Conservative Hypocrisy here.

And Bubba, if someone plea bargains, yes, they are still considered guilty.

 

[Chanda]

The purpose of the article is to bash Murtha in order to prop up the Iraq war. A Republican said nearly the same thing:

"This was a small number of Marines who fired directly on civilians and killed them," said Representative John Kline, a Minnesota Republican and former Marine who was briefed two weeks ago by Marine Corps officials. "This is going to be an ugly story."

The Shame of Haditha | TIME

 

[BWG]

The purpose of the article is to bash Murtha in order to prop up the Iraq war. A Republican said nearly the same thing:

"This was a small number of Marines who fired directly on civilians and killed them," said Representative John Kline, a Minnesota Republican and former Marine who was briefed two weeks ago by Marine Corps officials. "This is going to be an ugly story."

The Shame of Haditha | TIME

I hope you weren't surprized

The whole article from the 'WorldNetDaily'.:roll:.(whatever that is) was quotes from the defense attorneys. What did you expect them to say?...LOL...

The Thomas More Law Center of Ann Arbor, Mich., say they are representing Lt. Col. Jeffrey Chessani

...said Brian Rooney, one of two Thomas More Law Center attorneys on the case. The other is Robert Muise

...Rooney said

...Rooney said

... said Muise

...said Richard Thompson, president of the Thomas More Law Center.

...said Lt. Col. Jon Shelburne, a military member of the defense team.

...said Thompson

...Thompson said

Murtha, chairman of the House military appropriations subcommittee, has publicly accused Marines of being "cold-blooded murderers"

Murther never called these men "cold-blooded murderers" as the 'WorldNetDaily'.:roll:. quoted him as saying.

 

[26 X World Champs]

Yeah but you don't call them murderers before they have even be charged or indicted like your buddy did.......That is the difference......

So when you called President Clinton a RAPIST what does that say about you?

How about when you called Sen. Kerry a TRAITOR?

OR Sen. Edwards "An AMBULANCE CHASER"?

Is there any post written today that is more hypocritical than this one of yours that I am quoting?

 

[26 X World Champs]

I am sure everyone remembers what Murtha said about our troops in Iraq about this incident....He had them tried and convicted before they were even charged....Well he was wrong...........JUST SHUT UP MURTHA!!!!
WorldNetDaily: Testimony leaves Murtha allegations wilting

Officers defend Marines accused of killing civilians in Iraq ambush

Posted: April 4, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern


Six officers and a senior enlisted Marine have given sworn statements that there was nothing they saw or heard about a firefight in Iraq in 2005 that would make them think any Marine purposely killed Iraqi civilians, according to a law firm investigating the case.

The Thomas More Law Center, which is defending Chessani, a Colorado Marine, at no cost, said his maximum punishment could be dismissal, loss of retirement and three years in prison. He successfully directed his soldiers through the Haditha ambush, but then got caught in U.S. Rep. John Murtha's firefight of words as the anti-war congressman tried to capitalize on the situation.

Murtha, chairman of the House military appropriations subcommittee, has publicly accused Marines of being "cold-blooded murderers" and officers of covering it up. Thompson said that taint is what the lawyers now are trying to remove from the case.

What a bunch of BULLSHIT! A giant pile of BULLSHIT! This partisan site that posted this partisan article only quotes the defense attorney! Nowhere have these soldiers been exonerated or found not guilty!

This entire thread was created with one purpose, to attack Congressman Murtha and you cited a bullshit partisan article to do so!

How about I print a story from a bullshit partisan left wing site? Would you accept that as creditable? I seriously doubt it...actually I KNOW you would not. You're doing the exact same thing in reverse.

How come, BTW, you're not including Republican Congressman John Kline in your slanted, partisan attack? He made accusatory charges against the very same soldiers.

Hypocrisy in this thread is so revolting and obvious...once again your thread has been undressed for everyone to see how unfair it is...what else is new?