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Napolitano also warned of al-Shabaab in Somalia, which has taken responsibility for recent bombings in Uganda. But she neglected to mention both U.S. and Ugandan military intervention in Somalia, another Muslim country. Are we to be surprised that young naturalized Somali-Americans would feel impelled to go back to their native country to resist American aggression?
Why won't Napolitano acknowledge that the American empire provokes anti-Americanism? This isn't rocket science. You bomb someone; they get mad and try to get even. Terrorism is the price paid for maintaining an empire. But the imperial masters apparently think it's worth the price. They never suffer; on the contrary, they prosper when they can use the violence to justify further expansion of their power.
And so it goes on, like a perpetual-motion machine. Each act of the empire provokes a response that serves as a pretext for further imperial action. The battlefield is the world, and the "war on terror" can go on forever. Except for the dead, the maimed, the malnourished, and the taxpayers, it's a sweet deal all around.
That "terrorism" is really vengeance (wrongly exacted from civilians) for earlier crimes of the empire should come as no shock, though it undoubtedly will. Nevertheless, even the mainstream press has let us in on some relevant facts.
WHY should there be ANY Somali's in the USA ???? Just wondering.
Now all in All a lot of the view that US policies at various times has incited this hostility is correct BUT the Arab/Israeli conflict over almost 70 years has an awful lot to do with it and sub ideology's like Wahabbism is 100% incompatible with Western democracy SO in a shrinking tech laden world there would have to be eventual conflict UNLESS We in the West , where many of us are always concerned about minor infringements on Rights and focus on past wrongs disproportionatly can always turn a blind eye to the crueler structure of much of Islam - such as repression of Women, winking at Slavery & lunatic Suicide Martyrs, then unless we can do that. In short facing up to and dealing with constant hypocrisy then possibly we coexist. Howver I for one doubt that works long term.
WHY should there be ANY Somali's in the USA ???? Just wondering.
Maybe 'cause their country has gone to hell and they're looking for a better life, you know, like the first immigrants to America.
Well, I meander on at times. However the "Blowback" theories of many comfortable Westerners towards Radical Islam in it's various forms is troubling. They delude themselves into thing "If Only" or "Well, Let them just Run their own Affairs" or "It's All about Oil"
Now all 3 views have some validity, but still there are some limits on how much we can accept or overlook and kindly remember some of these Crazies are in our midst and will ALWAYS pose a greater threat than any Militia or Right to Life Crazies or assorted Gun Nuts who are born Americans.
Gun nuts : It's been proven in ANY case that MORE GUNS = LESS CRIME, typically in the 20% range. And I have to illustrate the Swiss, not only their policies protect them against an incursion from the nazis, but now, the swiss don't even keep records of gun crimes in the country because the statistic was so low. There it is almost against the law for a citizen to NOT own a gun and keep it in their home, and the government pays for the ammo in many cases.
B'man ... this is simplistic and wrong !!!
Gun crime in Switzerland is NOT low "because" of high level gun ownership ... it is because the Swiss mentality is entirely different to the US.
Guns are NOT seen as a right per se, but as a responsibility and priviledge, there is compulsory training and service in the military where you are taught that a gun is not a personal right ... the Swiss are also a wealthy nation, with little poverty, high free education and a health system that is a mix of public and private, with a general high standard of living.
Ya, I agree with you here... If you went to gangland USA, and just gave everyone a gun, it would be a blood bath.
Now, for the Swiss, the reason their gun crime is so low is,, like you said, also a matter of training, and a military background, and low poverty levels... So, they really have taken a holistic approach to this issue, and it's paid off drastically. My girlfriend reacted the same way when I told her the simplified argument as well, but the same points she used to say that not everyone in north america should be allowed to carry weapons, was the same points I used to convince her to come with me and get the training to defend herself.
To further make the point, in Great Britain, New York, Chicago, Australia as well to some extent, have ALL had their populations disarmed... and well, they are MOST all now cesspits of crime. The criminals have no fear that if they break into a house that they might wind up staring down the barrel of a gun. On the flip side of this, places that HAD gun restrictions, but then returned to 'open carry' laws' typically see roughly a 20% decrease in crime on that merit alone.
In truth, I don't believe that everyone should have a gun... Example, anyone that's been prosecuted for a felony should have their rights to purchase weapons more limited then those that have shown themselves to be responsible members of society.
So, ya... within limits, a well armed society is a polite society in that people are more likely to be respectful of others overall when they know that there's a chance that they can pay with their lives.
In spite of that famous Curtis Lemay line in 1965 - can anyone really cite an example of a society being bombed back into a Stone Age ????? There is no such place, and while the US & Western buildup in the Gulf & Saudi Arabia in late 1990 did push the Hard Islamists over the Rubicon one could argue they would have crossed sooner or later on their own.
One can in a tiny way cite examples justifying almost any ideology even Naziism because nothing in life is so simple and substantial events normally occur because of earlier events.
This means that 2 basic truths currently exist for Western Democracy including comfortable Progressives A) The Islamists eventually would have come our way simply thru Immigration into the West and B) Present reality is that they ARE THE ENEMY , and it's a lot better if We prevail instead of them.
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