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Ted Turner Pays Reporter for favorable UN Story.

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Let's see if the media covers this story as extensively as they have stories of Republicans who write favorable pieces about President Bush. **Sits back and waits for the outrage.

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Squawker said:
Let's see if the media covers this story as extensively as they have stories of Republicans who write favorable pieces about President Bush. **Sits back and waits for the outrage.


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So you think it's as big an outrage when Turner used his own money to have a press piece or a book put out that slants the way he wants. As it is when the Bush Administration uses tax dollars to do it?
 
So you think it's as big an outrage when Turner used his own money to have a press piece or a book put out that slants the way he wants. As it is when the Bush Administration uses tax dollars to do it?
You have a source that proves that?
 
Squawker said:
You have a source that proves that?

Seriously, you're unaware of the many times the Bush Administration has paid for media? Such as:

By BEN FELLER, AP Education Writer
WASHINGTON - The Bush administration paid a prominent commentator to promote the No Child Left Behind schools law to fellow blacks and to give the education secretary media time, records show. A company run by Armstrong Williams, the syndicated commentator, was paid $240,000 by the Education Department. The goal was to deliver positive messages about Bush's education overhaul, using Williams' broad reach with minorities.

http://www.fafsa.com/downloads/Articles/1-8-2005USPaysCommentatortoToutSchoolLaw_The_Times_IN.pdf
 
Our Government does it all the time. Where do you think the money for anti-tobacco ads, anti-drugs, anti-obesity, or other ads come from? PBS (radio and TV) has been subsidized by taxpayers from its inception. They have spread left wing propaganda for years. I question why it is a big “scandal” now, and if the outrage will extend to Ted Turner.
 

Putting out ads or buying ads isn't exactly the same thing as paying a talk show host 240K to do a 180 on an issue is it?
 
Putting out ads or buying ads isn't exactly the same thing as paying a talk show host 240K to do a 180 on an issue is it?
Judge for yourself, but I don’t think the two are comparable at all. Williams is another good man the left tried to destroy. Find out how much the teachers union paid to shut Williams up.
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Squawker said:
Judge for yourself, but I don’t think the two are comparable at all. Williams is another good man the left tried to destroy. Find out how much the teachers union paid to shut Williams up.

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Those wrods would have some merit if Williams hadn't, prior to being paid 240K for his opinion, said on several occasions that he didn't favor Bush's NCLB plan. On the June 25, 2001, edition of FOX News' The Edge with Paula Zahn, Williams pointed to his criticism of Bush on NCLB to argue that conservative radio hosts were not giving Bush a free pass: "On the issue like where he [Bush] just totally capitulated to Senator Ted Kennedy [D-MA] on his education plan, on vouchers, which he's trying to revive today, we certainly criticized him on that because the plan eventually became the Kennedy plan." And In a May 16, 2001, syndicated column, he wrote this regarding Bush's NCLB: "By letting vouchers fall by the wayside and by throwing more money at public schools than any president had previously imagined, Mr. Bush scooped out the soul of his own education proposal." The Bush Administration ponies up 240K and suddenly he's got nothing neg. to say about the plan. The plan didn't change, just Williams' bank account.

So really who could blame the teachers for, once they realized his opinions were up for sell to the highest bidder, they too tried to enroll his services?

He's a hack, a well paid hack, but a hack.
 
This just says he was against the Kennedy plan, not vouchers. Sounds to me like Williams didn’t want Bush to back down on the voucher issue, and give in to Kennedy. Most Republicans were not please with it either.
The Bush Administration ponies up 240K and suddenly he's got nothing neg. to say about the plan. The plan didn't change, just Williams' bank account.
So says "media matters" for nothing.

So really who could blame the teachers for, once they realized his opinions were up for sell to the highest bidder, they too tried to enroll his services?
They did? How?
You swallow everything Media Matters say, it seems. This is what Williams said to Colmes.
Do you have a link to the column? I couldn’t find it.
But, obviously, with anything you don't support it 100 percent, but I would say 98.9 percent of the time on this issue I've stood fiercely beside this issue. My advocacy of this issue had nothing to do with the fact that I was being paid.

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Even if he did not support School Vouchers, they aren’t the only thing included in NCLB. Source One could still support the plan without embracing vouchers. Democrats problem is because they have such scumbags in politics and the media, they think everyone is the same.
 
Squawker said:
You swallow everything Media Matters say, it seems.

Let me see if I have this straight. Your position is that Williams has always been in favor of NCLB and the fact that he accepted nearly a quarter of a million dollars to promote it had no effect on his opinion what so ever. Even though prior to his accepting the cash he said thing's, by his own admision, against parts of the plan. Then after the cash he had absolutely nothing negative to say about the plan. The cash had no effect on his position. And you think “Williams is another good man the left tried to destroy”, that his taking huge amounts of payola has nothing to do with it- they’re just attacking him. And you think I'm the one exhibiting a propensity to "swallow everything" I'm being told. Alright, if you say so.
 

Good post! Of course the people defending Williams are never going to accept anything Media Matters says, nor anything that points out the truth about any Republican paid croney. Democrats have no problem admitting worngdoings, their candidates shortcomings, and not supporting every single thing their party does. "Some might say" that Republicans almost always support everything the White House spits out, right or wrong. Just ask them about WMDs in Iraq! They'll still tell you they were there and we found them!
 
Democrats have no problem admitting worngdoings, their candidates shortcomings, and not supporting every single thing their party does.
You are joking, right?
"Some might say" that Republicans almost always support everything the White House spits out, right or wrong.
You can't be serious.
Just ask them about WMDs in Iraq! They'll still tell you they were there and we found them!
Where have you been to believe all this drivel you just posted?
 
Let me see if I have this straight. Your position is that Williams has always been in favor of NCLB and the fact that he accepted nearly a quarter of a million dollars to promote it had no effect on his opinion what so ever.
Yes it is. You haven't supplied any evidence to the contrary. I have very little faith in what Media Matters says. Show me the actual article or interview transcript they mention as proof. Show me what he was actually against. Lets try some facts instead of left wing talking points.
 

Well since you seem to only like and or value information and or mis-information supplied by groups such as AIM et el. I think it's really just a waste of my time. I've shown you several examples and you always have some lame excuse why it's not factual. Well Hume only mis-quoted FDR like that because it's the only way those on the left would understand it. Sure, people on the left are always getting their news from Hume and he's always "dumbing it down" for them. And Williams is a good guy- taking the nearly quarter million dollars had nothing what or ever to do with changing his opinions. Sure, lots of guy change their minds about something after getting paid huge gobs of cash- doesn't mean the cash had anything to do with it. The Fact is Hume edited FDR's speech. The Fact is Williams accepted nearly a quarter million dollars to promote something he had been making negative statements about. Those aren't a talking point's- those are a facts. Something tells me there's no way in he*l you'd swallow this any of this BS if the name's Hume and Williams were replaced with Rather and Franken. So you just keep watching and listening to those that tell you what you want to hear. Everything else is all lies and spin.
 
Given the way the major media sources treat anything connected with the Administration, there are few ways to get the Administration's message out.
 
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All that happened here is that a federally funded organization paid someone to promote something that they believed would in turn help their organization.

Know what else is a federally funded organization?

Planned Parenthood.

If Planned Parenthood pays a person to write about how Bush is an ass, does that constitute the scandal of the year like the media is making this out to be? No, it's expected.

You don't think that every single president ever has used the resources at hand to promote what they want?
 
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