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Obviously. No one is forcing trigger locks on anyone.
However, when a gun is not in use, it makes sense to secure it, and that's what these tools are for.
They are not an instrument of Satan, TD.
No more so than the extensive taxes we already pay, this just puts the choice back with us Parents. :2wave:
How am I supposed to defend my family and property if I have to ask the badido to hold on a sec while I unlock my pistole. :doh
It's an infringment.
Do you store you guns in the open at home or do you lock them up?
how in the world do you figure that the govt giving you 'your money' to decide which school your child will attend, more govt involvement? :dohHow so it sounds like government getting involved in a private matter. Try to be consistent with your outrage. The government providing money for vouchers is government involvement.
I don't think you comprehend what these "vouchers" are. You already pay property taxes to support your local school. If you want to pull your child out and place them in a school that teaches instead of indoctrinates, you can, but you still pay the property taxes for public schools.
Vouchers are a return of YOUR money BACK to YOU so that you can pay for the education of your child with money you gave the government for schools your kids no longer attend.
Short explanation; it is YOUR money. The Government is just giving it back. What a concept eh?
No one suggests that gun locks prevent you from owning a gun. They prevent you from defending yourself with the gun due to an asinine Liberal idea that we need to make guns useless for the purpose for which they are intended in order to support an asinine agenda that assumes if we disarm law abiding citizens, we can make them safe from crime.
I know, this makes ZERO sense; but that is the mentality of the disarm America crowd which crows about Constitutional rights but when it comes to your second amendment rights, all bets are off.
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how in the world do you figure that the govt giving you 'your money' to decide which school your child will attend, more govt involvement? :doh
I understand perfectly what vouchers are. People use them to send their kids to private schools. Social security is my money as well but aren't you against that? Medicare, Medicaid all money I pay out. Disability, unemployment insurance. Again be consistent. The same can be said about school vouchers as these programs which taxpayers pay into and at times use themselves.
Um Rev kinda tried to make the case that somehow gunlocks violate the second amendment and prevent you from bearing arms. Totally incorrent. How does a gunlock prevent you from using a gun when you need it? This is ridiculous just take the damn thing off when you don't need it. Gun locks don't make guns useless anymore than having a safe that you store your gun in makes it useless. Gunlocks don't disarm the public again you're making an argument not based in logic
You're talking about government intervention here. I'd say if you guys were being consistent with doing away with social programs that vouchers would also go as well
Caution; poster is attempting to drag the debate into the circle of futility by jumping to other subjects when their original argument/assertion was false.
When do you think someone needs it? Perhaps when they are being attacked or threatened? How much time do you think you will have to remove the gunlock?
Once again, if the debate is about Government mandating gunlocks, I am all over it. If this is just a semantical effort to enter into a circle of futility, count me out.
If you think this Government doesn’t want to make handguns useless and ban them; think again.
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well since you can not grasp the simple concept that:
the govt giving people back 'their own money' is NOT govt intervention, this conversation is done. Enjoy the day
I think the point of gun locks is this... A hefty percentage of weapons used by criminals out on the streets are actually stolen from the law-abiding gun owners during burglaries and car burglaries. A gun lock makes it more difficult for a gun to be stolen and used.
I never really thought this point was difficult to understand, but clearly, it is for some people.
A gun lock can also protect your children by making it impossible for them to use the gun when you aren't around.
A good friend of mine, a sergeant in a gang unit in Utah...his daughter killed herself with his service revolver, which he kept on the top of his dresser.
It's possible that a trigger lock MIGHT have prevented that.
Obviously. No one is forcing trigger locks on anyone. However, when a gun is not in use, it makes sense to secure it, and that's what these tools are for.
They are not an instrument of Satan, TD.
How so it sounds like government getting involved in a private matter. Try to be consistent with your outrage. The government providing money for vouchers is government involvement.
So you're saying that you're going to be held at gunpoint the moment you exit the gun shop after you buy your gun? Come on don't be ridiculous.
Do you keep a gunlock on your gun when its not in use and stored in your home?
Again I ask how do gun locks infringe on you owning a gun?
How exactly do gun locks stop you from buying guns?
You can't be arsed to remove the gun lock when you actually need to use it?
Do you store you guns in the open at home or do you lock them up?
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