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I know of no Tea Party function sponsored by Fox News but I do know that Fox News covered the Tea Parties as they should.
So then why is it that after people started being critical of Fox News involvement in the Tea Parties, Rupert Murdoch said in reply to the question of why they sponsor Tea party events, "That is something I think we should not be doing." A week later a Tea Party event in my area was supposed to have Hannity show up and oops surprise! He cancelled his appearance after boss man reigned in the dogs.
everytime i turned on fox news for a several month stretch, it was always a 'tea party' theme...they were always at the events, i seem to remember hannity hosting his show from several of them, both on tv and radio....fox was for all intents and purposes, sponsoring them.So then why is it that after people started being critical of Fox News involvement in the Tea Parties, Rupert Murdoch said in reply to the question of why they sponsor Tea party events, "That is something I think we should not be doing." A week later a Tea Party event in my area was supposed to have Hannity show up and oops surprise! He cancelled his appearance after boss man reigned in the dogs.
everytime i turned on fox news for a several month stretch, it was always a 'tea party' theme...they were always at the events, i seem to remember hannity hosting his show from several of them, both on tv and radio....fox was for all intents and purposes, sponsoring them.
you are certainly entitled to your opinion but that opinion doesn't make it fact. Hannity was prevented from going on stage at a Tea Party for fear that it sent the wrong message for Fox News.
Hannity however is a Op Ed person vs. a hard news person. Covering the Tea Party's however seems to be the responsible thing to do since that group is made up of members of all political spectrum.
I love the Tea Party movement because it is grass roots, has members of all parties, and is drawing attention even the braindead Obama supporters as to the agenda of this leftwing campaigner in chief.
Like far too many the attack machine of this Administration and supporters ignores the Tea Party message and instead tries to destroy the individuals involved. Same tactic is played in this forum as well, attack the messenger and ignore the message.
I gave my opinion on it, and that wasn't good enough. Because the people that run that entire network showed up and sponsored them that still means Fox didn't sponsor them apparently.
Also, just because the kids drive mom and grandpa to a rally, doesn't make them supporters. Here are some real stats for you:
A recent gallop poll also indicated that the tea party movement has 18% of Americans support, so less than 2 out of 10 support it. Even less than that are active in it.
Because this is a forum and it's something to talk about? I dunno you instigated a response and I gave you one. Your best rebuttal is to scoff at mine. Also hey, I can fully understand the WH and it's misgivings, I just know how to take it into proportion and not conclude that our country is going to be in ruins because of who is in there. It hasn't happened before when we had worse people in office, and it won't happen now.
Because this is a forum and it's something to talk about? I dunno you instigated a response and I gave you one. Your best rebuttal is to scoff at mine. Also hey, I can fully understand the WH and it's misgivings, I just know how to take it into proportion and not conclude that our country is going to be in ruins because of who is in there. It hasn't happened before when we had worse people in office, and it won't happen now.
This is what you wanted Conservative. A chance to attack somebody on something that has nothing to do with your original subject. You got your chance, and I will leave it at that.
This is what you wanted Conservative. A chance to attack somebody on something that has nothing to do with your original subject. You got your chance, and I will leave it at that.
1. I voted Democrat because my head is so firmly planted up my ass that it is unlikely that I'll ever have another point of view.
What specifically do you want me to talk about?
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I would consider that a personal attack.
I gave my opinion on it, and that wasn't good enough. Because the people that run that entire network showed up and sponsored them that still means Fox didn't sponsor them apparently.
Also, just because the kids drive mom and grandpa to a rally, doesn't make them supporters. Here are some real stats for you:
A recent gallop poll also indicated that the tea party movement has 18% of Americans support, so less than 2 out of 10 support it. Even less than that are active in it.
I think the stat is pretty fair actually. What SHOULD scare the democrtats to death are the 41%
Of course this ignores the fact that even Mary Francis Berry said the Tea Party was no more racist than anyone else, but by calling them racist you will take away the emphasis on the real problems...the bad economy...continued unemployment, and rampant government spending. And thats out of the mouth of a democrat supporter.
I think the OP point is simply this...why do you think the left works so hard to marginalize the successful blacks in this country that dont accept the past as an excuse to continue to fail? Why is there no coverage of people that support the Tea Party that HAPPEN to be black? Why do you think that reporter in the video was so ANGRY for those blacks not toeing their expected role?
Because God help the left if minorities ever wake up and stop looking at just what the democrats have done to **** them over throughout history.
If you want to have a credible discussion then you have to get away from the liberal talking points from MediaMatters, Huffington Post, MoveOn, and other leftwing sites that take things out of context and distort reality. I know of no Tea Party function sponsored by Fox News but I do know that Fox News covered the Tea Parties as they should. Do you know the difference between the Opinion personnel and hard news personnel? From your post I don't think you have a clue.
And that is a problem, why? In your state the Tea Party candidate Rand Paul won without Republican support. That has happened in other states as well. The fact that GOP Candidates showed up to support tea party candidates goes to show how polarizing the Obama agenda is and what a disaster it has created.
There are a lot of Democrats and Independents in the Tea Party. The initial roots come from the opposition to the massive growth in the sie of govt, overwhelming debt, intrusion into the lives of all Americans with programs like National Healthcare, and redistribution of wealth. Ron Paul is an honest politician and practices what he preaches when it comes to spending. He takes no pork for his District and I live in the Houston area and know his record. Conservative politicians are more closely aligned with the goals of the Tea Party than liberal Democrats. Not sure why you have a problem with that.
Why would anyone who believes in personal responsibility, reduction in the size of the govt, individual wealth creation, tax cuts for all taxpayers align themselves with the Democrat Party. I was a Democrat for decades before I realized the party had left me. You seem to have a problem with the Tea Party agenda and love to label people Republicans and Democrats instead of Americans who care about what is happening in this country.
I had no use for John McCain but he sure beat the alternative. I guarantee you he wouldn't have added 3 trillion to the debt in two years and we wouldn't have 16 million unemployed. Have you paid any attention to Obama and his speeches. He has been on one constant campaign and demonizes conservatives at every turn. He never accepts responsibility and continues to blame Bush for everything even though the Democrats were in charge of the Congress from 2007 on. Obama has had total control including a filibuster proof Senate during part of his first term and has made things worse. The results are there for all to see. Some however remain blind.
I really don't believe you have a clue as to what the Tea Party stands for as there isn't just one Tea Party group, they are different in every part of the country but their common theme is united, smaller govt, stop the massive spending on programs that don't work, support the private sector, stop trying to redistribute wealth.
You are projecting when you say that Tea Party supporters are much older and have a common theme of taking our country back saying they don't want us young people controlling anything. What exactly is Obama allowing the young people to control? According to him you aren't smart enough to handle your own health care, you aren't smart enough to spending your own money, you aren't smart enough to make the right choices in life. The Tea Party wants the govt. out of the decision making process for ALL Americans. They are about personal responsibility, individual wealth creation, consequences for poor choices and failures. I have seen on evidence that they are against the younger people. It would help you however to pay a little more attention to the experience that older people have instead of stereotyping older people into the same category.
Why do you believe a word Obama says? He has yet to tell you the truth on any issue and BEA.gov, BLS.gov, and the U.S. Treasury Dept. websites are non partisan and have the actual facts. Obama and Democrats state that the Bush tax cuts cost the country trillions and created the debt. Why doesn't the checkbook of the United States, U.S. Treasury, show that. Why is it that the U.S. Treasury shows income tax revenue growing AFTER the Bush tax rate cuts? Explain that to me then explain how raising taxes on the top income earners in this country are going to make a dent in the 13.4 trillion dollar debt we now have when that amounts to about 40 billion dollars if it is collected at all. I don't know why people like you are concerned about what others make including the rich. No rich person got rich and made someone else poor as this isn't a zero sum economy.
I really get frustrated when young people claim that they aren't being listened to or taken seriously when they make statements like you have just made. All this outrage over what rich people make and pay in taxes. You do know it was their money before it went to the govt. thus tax cuts aren't an expense to the Federal Govt. Where is your outrage over the 3.8 trillion dollar budget today and the trillion dollar deficits each of Obama's first two years? Please name for me any other President in U.S. History that had a trillion dollar deficit in any year?
It does seem to me that if you want to be taken seriously then you will stop buying what you are told and research to verify the rhetoric. I gave you non partisan sites as a good place to start.
I know of no Tea Party function sponsored by Fox News but I do know that Fox News covered the Tea Parties as they should. Do you know the difference between the Opinion personnel and hard news personnel?
And that is a problem, why? In your state the Tea Party candidate Rand Paul won without Republican support. That has happened in other states as well. The fact that GOP Candidates showed up to support tea party candidates goes to show how polarizing the Obama agenda is and what a disaster it has created.
There are a lot of Democrats and Independents in the Tea Party. The initial roots come from the opposition to the massive growth in the sie of govt, overwhelming debt, intrusion into the lives of all Americans with programs like National Healthcare, and redistribution of wealth. Ron Paul is an honest politician and practices what he preaches when it comes to spending. He takes no pork for his District and I live in the Houston area and know his record. Conservative politicians are more closely aligned with the goals of the Tea Party than liberal Democrats. Not sure why you have a problem with that.
Why would anyone who believes in personal responsibility, reduction in the size of the govt, individual wealth creation, tax cuts for all taxpayers align themselves with the Democrat Party.
Have you paid any attention to Obama and his speeches. He has been on one constant campaign and demonizes conservatives at every turn. He never accepts responsibility and continues to blame Bush for everything even though the Democrats were in charge of the Congress from 2007 on. Obama has had total control including a filibuster proof Senate during part of his first term and has made things worse. The results are there for all to see. Some however remain blind.
I really don't believe you have a clue as to what the Tea Party stands for as there isn't just one Tea Party group, they are different in every part of the country but their common theme is united, smaller govt, stop the massive spending on programs that don't work, support the private sector, stop trying to redistribute wealth.
Obama has created consumer protections that help people like me have better control over their finanices and credit. Because I have no insurance right now, my pregnant girlfriend doesn't have to worry about not having insurance when she has the baby because she can stay on her mom's until she is 26 if she so chooses.What exactly is Obama allowing the young people to control? According to him you aren't smart enough to handle your own health care, you aren't smart enough to spending your own money, you aren't smart enough to make the right choices in life.
I stated with inflation FDR has spent much more than Obama, and since FDR every single president since then (due to inflation) has spent more and more Dem or Rep.Where is your outrage over the 3.8 trillion dollar budget today and the trillion dollar deficits each of Obama's first two years? Please name for me any other President in U.S. History that had a trillion dollar deficit in any year?
Why do you believe a word Obama says? He has yet to tell you the truth on any issue and BEA.gov, BLS.gov, and the U.S. Treasury Dept. websites are non partisan and have the actual facts. Obama and Democrats state that the Bush tax cuts cost the country trillions and created the debt. Why doesn't the checkbook of the United States, U.S. Treasury, show that. Why is it that the U.S. Treasury shows income tax revenue growing AFTER the Bush tax rate cuts? Explain that to me then explain how raising taxes on the top income earners in this country are going to make a dent in the 13.4 trillion dollar debt we now have when that amounts to about 40 billion dollars if it is collected at all. I don't know why people like you are concerned about what others make including the rich. No rich person got rich and made someone else poor as this isn't a zero sum economy.
JohnWOlin;1058905165]I responded to this, you didn't like my answer.
Rand Paul won because he used his dad's leftover cash to take out McConnell's boy. Rand Paul won because there is neo-con, and then there is ultra-con he would be an ultra-con. Sharon Angle would be an ultra-con, Sarah Palin would be an ultra-con. Most of these people percribe less to the complicated nature of politics and more to the "these are my people taking my land back" kind of attitude that seems to permeate throughout the Tea Party movement.
I had no problem with it, because Ron Paul like I said is a man of his word and I respect him for it. What I have a problem with, is Republicans, conservatives, and conservative media twisting it for their own gain, something I believe wasn't the initial use for it.
If you make under $25,000 a year, Obama has already given a tax cut. The tax cuts phase out for people making over 250k and are set permanent for people making under that. I to agree the government is getting a bit hefty specifically with it's many bueracrcies, but this is nto a problem created by Obama exclusively, this has been going on at an exponetial rate with democrats and republicans since FDR.
I totally agree, Obama has not been taking full responsiblity, he hasn't been tough enough, and this is why the healthcare debate dragged on for so long, something he could have accomplished within 6 months took him a whole year+ to accomplish.
I know completely what they stand for, but the bigger national tea parties have outside influences involved in shaping the way they do business now, such as Dick Armey.
Obama has created consumer protections that help people like me have better control over their finanices and credit. Because I have no insurance right now, my pregnant girlfriend doesn't have to worry about not having insurance when she has the baby because she can stay on her mom's until she is 26 if she so chooses.
I stated with inflation FDR has spent much more than Obama, and since FDR every single president since then (due to inflation) has spent more and more Dem or Rep.
I do not believe everything he says and I don't expect rolling back Bush tax cuts as solving our defict crisis, but it won't hurt anything either.
I didn't like your answer because it was wrong. Fox News isn't sponsoring Tea Party rallies and you have provided no evidence refuting my statement.
All senators from Reid to McConnell create provisions and earmarks to better suit their needs. If any of them appropriate funds for their own pet projects I would object to that, however Angle is an all out loon. Anything she says is pure gold. You can't right one wrong with another wrong, especially if that wrong likely won't work with her own peers either.Sharon Angle is a true grass roots candidate running against one of the most corrupt and liberal candidates in the Senate. She is in a tight race with a corrupt, overfunded politician, Harry Reid.
But you do realize that you are already paying for millions of childrens healthcare right and that most of the healthcare bill as it is now is more about driving cost down and making the system more fair? As I stated, without the healthcare bill, my girlfriend would not be able to have guaranteed insurance on her mom's insurance for the next 5 years. She has a few pre-existing conditions as well that before would have been uncoverable or make the rates go up even higher. With the healthcare bill, insurance companies can't do this anymore.Obama has zero leadership skills and that was evident on his resume. Too many bought the hope and change message and ignored that resume. Healthcare is a personal responsibility not a govt. responsibility. Too many personal factors affect one's health. I don't expect you to pay for mine so why should I pay for yours?
JohnWOlin;1058905201]I provided plenty, in fact after Murdoch said a few years ago that supporting the tea party movement was the most important thing Fox could do, he retreaded on the fact after probes by the various organizations that Fox News is apart of: MicShots: Fox News Pulls Support for Tea Party...
All senators from Reid to McConnell create provisions and earmarks to better suit their needs. If any of them appropriate funds for their own pet projects I would object to that, however Angle is an all out loon. Anything she says is pure gold. You can't right one wrong with another wrong, especially if that wrong likely won't work with her own peers either.
But you do realize that you are already paying for millions of childrens healthcare right and that most of the healthcare bill as it is now is more about driving cost down and making the system more fair? As I stated, without the healthcare bill, my girlfriend would not be able to have guaranteed insurance on her mom's insurance for the next 5 years. She has a few pre-existing conditions as well that before would have been uncoverable or make the rates go up even higher. With the healthcare bill, insurance companies can't do this anymore.
Also to be honest, I don't really care about the deficit I was just pointing out that while Obama has spent more money, every single president since FDR has spent more than the last (other than Carter and Bush Sr. they were about even with the previous spending). Even with the surplus Clinton gave us, that was just a surplus over money we borrowed out, we still had a national deficit, and it is more of an abstract number than anything else.
You show that you are in Kentucky yet you call Angle a loon. I don't know a thing about Angle but I do know about Reid and the true disaster he has been as Majority Leader and the results generated. Angle can do no worse in my opinion.
Making sure children in our nation, the best nation in the world can grow up healthy is "entitlement"? I think we should get rid of senior citizens discounts, now that's entitlement.entitlement program
What does me being from KY have anything to do with me calling Angle a loon? Oh wait is it because I'm wearing overalls with no shirt under it and I'm sitting out on my porch blowing into a jug while I **** my sister?
Making sure children in our nation, the best nation in the world can grow up healthy is "entitlement"? I think we should get rid of senior citizens discounts, now that's entitlement.
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