Sweden- The First Swedes were Black-African in Appearance, According to SVT Public Broadcasting

[truthatallcost]

Promotional advertisement from SVT's series, 'De Första Svenskarna' (The First Swedes), which began airing on February 20 in Sweden. Note the most prominent face in the advertisement is an African looking man next to a more traditional Swedish looking woman with blonde hair. Some tubby white guy with a bald head is displayed last.

According to a new propaganda piece, er, documentary, the first Swedes were dark skinned and had broad noses and blue eyes. I've done a fair bit of research into the sources used by SVT to claim the first Swedes were actually black in appearance. The main source is Uppsala University professor Mattias Jakobsson, who just so happens to operate a website that discloses the source of his grant money. The #1 source listed is the European Research Council, which is funded by bureaucrats at the European Union. Many influential members of the EU, & those working in conjunction with the EU have spoke publicly about the coming population boom in Africa, as the continent is projected to add another 1 billion people to the planet by 2050. EU officials, and their stooges have said on record that the population explosion in Africa can be best dealt with by employing liberal migration policies conducting Africans into the EU.

Another donor to Jakobsson's projects is none other than Riksbanken Jubileumsfond, a foundation for research grants of the Riksbanken (Sweden's Central Bank), which much like all central banks, spends enormous sums behind the scenes to prop up migration from the third world, and eliminate borders and nationalism.

What better way to eliminate the pride of REAL Swedes, than by telling them they aren't in fact indigenous Europeans at all, rather, they're the descendants of fair skinned conquerors who colonized Sweden and removed the original black inhabitants?
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Before starting this thread, I contemplated whether it was something I really wanted to do, as many will now accuse me of odd conspiracy theories, and perhaps even the scarlet letter of racism. I decided to go ahead with the thread, fully recognizing that many will scoff at my conclusions, but hopefully someone's mind will be opened, and they too will begin asking why European history is under attack by those who control banking, the EU, and want to erase sovereign borders.


Jakobsson Lab – Human evolution | Biology | Statistics

Mot de forsta svenskarna - SVT Nyheter

De forsta svenskarna | SVT.se

Bank of Sweden Tercentenary Foundation - Wikipedia

CPRA - European Cultural Foundation

 

[Litwin]

Promotional advertisement from SVT's series, 'De Första Svenskarna' (The First Swedes), which began airing on February 20 in Sweden. Note the most prominent face in the advertisement is an African looking man next to a more traditional Swedish looking woman with blonde hair. Some tubby white guy with a bald head is displayed last.

According to a new propaganda piece, er, documentary, the first Swedes were dark skinned and had broad noses and blue eyes. I've done a fair bit of research into the sources used by SVT to claim the first Swedes were actually black in appearance. The main source is Uppsala University professor Mattias Jakobsson, who just so happens to operate a website that discloses the source of his grant money. The #1 source listed is the European Research Council, which is funded by bureaucrats at the European Union. Many influential members of the EU, & those working in conjunction with the EU have spoke publicly about the coming population boom in Africa, as the continent is projected to add another 1 billion people to the planet by 2050. EU officials, and their stooges have said on record that the population explosion in Africa can be best dealt with by employing liberal migration policies conducting Africans into the EU.

Another donor to Jakobsson's projects is none other than Riksbanken Jubileumsfond, a foundation for research grants of the Riksbanken (Sweden's Central Bank), which much like all central banks, spends enormous sums behind the scenes to prop up migration from the third world, and eliminate borders and nationalism.

What better way to eliminate the pride of REAL Swedes, than by telling them they aren't in fact indigenous Europeans at all, rather, they're the descendants of fair skinned conquerors who colonized Sweden and removed the original black inhabitants?
----------------

Before starting this thread, I contemplated whether it was something I really wanted to do, as many will now accuse me of odd conspiracy theories, and perhaps even the scarlet letter of racism. I decided to go ahead with the thread, fully recognizing that many will scoff at my conclusions, but hopefully someone's mind will be opened, and they too will begin asking why European history is under attack by those who control banking, the EU, and want to erase sovereign borders.


Jakobsson Lab – Human evolution | Biology | Statistics

Mot de forsta svenskarna - SVT Nyheter

De forsta svenskarna | SVT.se

Bank of Sweden Tercentenary Foundation - Wikipedia

CPRA - European Cultural Foundation

is it some kind of news for you?

 

[TheParser]

Wow!


What a hot potato!

I am too cowardly to comment on its contents.

I will only (timidly) say this: Europe (like America) will be receiving many more immigrants in the coming decades -- like it or not.

(P.S. When I was a teenager in the 1950s (!) Sweden was my idea of a perfect nation. Back then, I could never have imagined this would happen to Sweden.)

 

[Maximus Zeebra]

Before starting this thread, I contemplated whether it was something I really wanted to do

Better to say it now while you still can. If things keep developing as now, you will not only be shamed (namecalling + possible public shaming) and lose your job and reputation for saying things like this, but you will also be jailed.

 

[Infinite Chaos]

~ Before starting this thread, I contemplated whether it was something I really wanted to do, as many will now accuse me of odd conspiracy theories, and perhaps even the scarlet letter of racism ~

I'll humour you: where do you think Swedes or other white Europeans evolved from?

 

[Sweden]

Wow!


What a hot potato!

I am too cowardly to comment on its contents.

I will only (timidly) say this: Europe (like America) will be receiving many more immigrants in the coming decades -- like it or not.

(P.S. When I was a teenager in the 1950s (!) Sweden was my idea of a perfect nation. Back then, I could never have imagined this would happen to Sweden.)

I'll comment - because I actually watched this very interesting prog (part 1 of 2) on Swedish TV. Not even a luke-warm potato.

The theory is: After the ice age, which began to recede 11,000 years ago, there were two streams of hunter-gatherer migrants. One up to West side of Sweden/Norway thought to have been dark skinned and blue eyed. The other , made up of light skinned people who originated in what is now Turkey, came up on the East side of the remaining ice. They met in the North and merged within a few generations. Skin tones, one of the least enduring or stable of genetic traits, are of trivial importance and presumably any differences soon disappeared.

I think large scale migration has been a disaster for Sweden, NOT because of the colour of the migrants skins but because of the anti-democratic Islamic culture that most of them have brought with them. But that is a different story and has nothing to do with the First post-ice age, Swedes.

 

[Bum]

Speaking as a Sami American ( direct on maternal and paternal lineage ) I can tell you that we come in a large variety of colors....dark skin and eyes, light skin, blue eyes, blonde, and even red hair.

Looking at the Haplo groups of Sami you will find the appearance is not so much influenced by African descent as it is Asian; though there is limited evidence that some of the V subgroups may be traced to northwestern Africa ( Morocco area) as opposed to the U5b groups.


For a crude analogy, think Yupik and Inupiat peoples from the US Alaska region.

 

[TheParser]

Thanks for introducing me to the word "Sami."

Previously, I had known only the term "Laplander."

 

[Bum]

Thanks for introducing me to the word "Sami."

Previously, I had known only the term "Laplander."

Eh....we kinda dislike that term...its considered rude.

Sami or Sapmi is the preferred way to refer to us.

*edit

Though technically correct, it was historically used as a slur.

 

[TheParser]

Eh....we kinda dislike that term...its considered rude.

Sami or Sapmi is the preferred way to refer to us.

*edit

Though technically correct, it was historically used as a slur.

Thank you for teaching that to people (like me) who were unaware of that fact.

That was a word that I had often seen in printed sources.

 

[Bum]

Thank you for teaching that to people (like me) who were unaware of that fact.

That was a word that I had often seen in printed sources.

I don't think the majority of the folks in the states or many parts of the world realize it was used that way, but in the Scandinavian nations it was definitely used in a derogatory manner.....the Sami have a long history of being discriminated against and persecuted, and it has only been relatively recently that it has been addressed.

 

[Chagos]

~............................. Skin tones, one of the least enduring or stable of genetic traits, are of trivial importance and presumably any differences soon disappeared...........................~

This! :thumbs:

Specifically.

Beyond which, the fact of "sapiens" sharing 96 pct of DNA with chimps should perhaps not worry most of us, considering how we've long since given up swinging thru the treetops.

When regarding "some" of my fellow humans though, I'm not so sure whether the chimps shouldn't be embarrassed.:mrgreen:

 

[Chagos]

~......................Before starting this thread, I contemplated whether it was something I really wanted to do,...................~

well, as was to be expected, your musings didn't bring you towards any prudent result here

as many will now accuse me of odd conspiracy theories, and perhaps even the scarlet letter of racism.

Wouldn't worry about that if I were you, seeing how your track record on here fully confirms all of that anyway.

I decided to go ahead with the thread, fully recognizing that many will scoff at my conclusions,

There are obviously instances, rare as they might be, when your instincts do NOT fail you.:2razz:

but hopefully someone's mind will be opened

one tends to give up hope by now with regard to your own

and they too will begin asking why European history is under attack by those who control banking, the EU, and want to erase sovereign borders.

the only thing that any-halfway-from-halfwit person is likely to query, is why they should pursue this total lack of logic, just because someone posts it:roll:

 

[Xelor]

Promotional advertisement from SVT's series, 'De Första Svenskarna' (The First Swedes), which began airing on February 20 in Sweden. Note the most prominent face in the advertisement is an African looking man next to a more traditional Swedish looking woman with blonde hair. Some tubby white guy with a bald head is displayed last.

According to a new propaganda piece, er, documentary, the first Swedes were dark skinned and had broad noses and blue eyes. I've done a fair bit of research into the sources used by SVT to claim the first Swedes were actually black in appearance. The main source is Uppsala University professor Mattias Jakobsson, who just so happens to operate a website that discloses the source of his grant money. The #1 source listed is the European Research Council, which is funded by bureaucrats at the European Union. Many influential members of the EU, & those working in conjunction with the EU have spoke publicly about the coming population boom in Africa, as the continent is projected to add another 1 billion people to the planet by 2050. EU officials, and their stooges have said on record that the population explosion in Africa can be best dealt with by employing liberal migration policies conducting Africans into the EU.

Another donor to Jakobsson's projects is none other than Riksbanken Jubileumsfond, a foundation for research grants of the Riksbanken (Sweden's Central Bank), which much like all central banks, spends enormous sums behind the scenes to prop up migration from the third world, and eliminate borders and nationalism.

What better way to eliminate the pride of REAL Swedes, than by telling them they aren't in fact indigenous Europeans at all, rather, they're the descendants of fair skinned conquerors who colonized Sweden and removed the original black inhabitants?
----------------

Before starting this thread, I contemplated whether it was something I really wanted to do, as many will now accuse me of odd conspiracy theories, and perhaps even the scarlet letter of racism. I decided to go ahead with the thread, fully recognizing that many will scoff at my conclusions, but hopefully someone's mind will be opened, and they too will begin asking why European history is under attack by those who control banking, the EU, and want to erase sovereign borders.


Jakobsson Lab – Human evolution | Biology | Statistics

Mot de forsta svenskarna - SVT Nyheter

De forsta svenskarna | SVT.se

Bank of Sweden Tercentenary Foundation - Wikipedia

CPRA - European Cultural Foundation

And for all that you had to say, you provided nothing that shows Mattias Jakobsson's methodology is materially flawed, which is what you (or anyone) needs to do to be credible in casting doubt on or refuting the man's findings.

That's a key failing that Trumpkins, in particular, exhibit. They have their suspicions about the illegitimacy or invalidity of "this or that," and they declare their suspicions as fact, based on little other than their discovery about motive or that someone else has the same supposition(s), but when pressed to show what's methodologically amiss with someone's analysis, from Trumpkins (and Trump) only crickets are heard, but the rest of us are supposed take them/him seriously.

 

[ataraxia]

Even if original dark skinned Scandinavians were replaced by lighter skinned people coming in there, they all came from the same place at first: Africa.

This is, of course, not to dismiss a very legitimate concern that people have, namely, the loss of cultural identity if there are too many immigrants all at once. But it has to be recognized for what it is: fear of too rapid a change of culture and cultural identity of the host country, not really about skin color. The skin color just ends up being a litmus test.

To solve a problem, you have to first identify it properly and define it well. The concern here is whether too much immigration too fast will change the very cultural fabric of the host country. One can see how that can be very frightening to many people in the host country.

Of course, immigrants can assimilate into the culture of the host country very well. Freddie Mercury was Indian, Casey Kasem was Lebanese, Steve Jobs was half-Syrian, etc... but it is true that too much too fast can overwhelm as well.

I am not giving any easy answers. Just trying to flesh out the real problem a little better.

 

[Sweden]

This! :thumbs:

Specifically.

Beyond which, the fact of "sapiens" sharing 96 pct of DNA with chimps should perhaps not worry most of us, considering how we've long since given up swinging thru the treetops.

When regarding "some" of my fellow humans though, I'm not so sure whether the chimps shouldn't be embarrassed.:mrgreen:

No, I do not think either the chimps or us may be downcast by being part of the great realm of all life on earth - not even because we both share a fair chunk of our DNA with bananas. (Don't tell the vegans that they are consuming a relation whatever they eat or the poor dears will starve.)

 

[truthatallcost]

I'll humour you: where do you think Swedes or other white Europeans evolved from?

Not from this-

^ does not produce this-

 

[jimbo]

I'll humour you: where do you think Swedes or other white Europeans evolved from?

Don't you ever watch Ancient Aliens? Sweden's population came from a watery planet in an adjacent galaxy, and originally lived in a settlement at the bottom of a lake.

 

[truthatallcost]

And for all that you had to say, you provided nothing that shows Mattias Jakobsson's methodology is materially flawed, which is what you (or anyone) needs to do to be credible in casting doubt on or refuting the man's findings.

Until this thread, you'd never heard of Jakobsson, yet you believe the picture from the OP represents 'The First Swedes'. OK, I'll allow you now to prove something; produce Jakobsson's peer reviewed paper in a scientific journal or publication, which proves his hypothesis. It doesn't exist. Which is fine by SVT standards, for producing a 3 part series of indoctrination propaganda for the Swedish public to consume.

That's a key failing that Trumpkins, in particular, exhibit. They have their suspicions about the illegitimacy or invalidity of "this or that," and they declare their suspicions as fact, based on little other than their discovery about motive or that someone else has the same supposition(s), but when pressed to show what's methodologically amiss with someone's analysis, from Trumpkins (and Trump) only crickets are heard, but the rest of us are supposed take them/him seriously.

So, based on watching a TV show, you would believe something that runs completely contrary to sound logic? (a people with average IQ of 70 morphed or evolved or bred into a people with average IQ of 100+)

 

[truthatallcost]

is it some kind of news for you?

Sorry, I couldn't help reading this question, then glancing down at Karl Marx in your signature. A fan of Marx would surely approve of erasing Europe's heritage.

 

[truthatallcost]

Better to say it now while you still can. If things keep developing as now, you will not only be shamed (namecalling + possible public shaming) and lose your job and reputation for saying things like this, but you will also be jailed.

Luckily, more freedoms exist in the USA at present. Though eventually it will reach here too. The UN Global Migration Pact stated that a push to eliminate criticism of migration trends is desperately needed, which I'm sure includes asking why the EU and central bankers are funding bizarre revisionist history, while also positing the idea that newcomers to Israel from Russia and the Ukraine are the god given indigenous peoples, having migrated there comparatively recently.

 

[Taylor]

Not from this-

^ does not produce this-

They have the same nose, but the guy on the bottom doesn't seem Swedish - with those brown eyes and all.

 

[truthatallcost]

Speaking as a Sami American ( direct on maternal and paternal lineage ) I can tell you that we come in a large variety of colors....dark skin and eyes, light skin, blue eyes, blonde, and even red hair.

Looking at the Haplo groups of Sami you will find the appearance is not so much influenced by African descent as it is Asian; though there is limited evidence that some of the V subgroups may be traced to northwestern Africa ( Morocco area) as opposed to the U5b groups.


For a crude analogy, think Yupik and Inupiat peoples from the US Alaska region.

Thank you. No one in their right mind would claim the Sami resemble sub-Saharan Africans with Photoshoped blue eyes!

 

[Somerville]

Until this thread, you'd never heard of Jakobsson, yet you believe the picture from the OP represents 'The First Swedes'. OK, I'll allow you now to prove something; produce Jakobsson's peer reviewed paper in a scientific journal or publication, which proves his hypothesis. It doesn't exist. Which is fine by SVT standards, for producing a 3 part series of indoctrination propaganda for the Swedish public to consume.



So, based on watching a TV show, you would believe something that runs completely contrary to sound logic? (a people with average IQ of 70 morphed or evolved or bred into a people with average IQ of 100+)

It would appear that your reading is limited to certain sources providing you with 'information' that supports your biases.

A story from a year ago, in the UK's conservative paper - The Telegraph

Cheddar Man: the first Britons were black, Natural History Museum DNA study reveals

The earliest Britons were black-skinned, with dark curly hair and possibly blue eyes, new analysis of a 10,000-year-old Somerset skeleton has revealed.

Scientists at the Natural History Museum have used pioneering genetic sequencing and facial reconstruction techniques to prove that the first hunter-gatherers successfully to inhabit Britain were far darker in complexion than previously thought.

This finding would seem to support Prof. Jakobsson's work.

 

[truthatallcost]

They have the same nose, but the guy on the bottom doesn't seem Swedish - with those brown eyes and all.

Many races may produce offspring with brown eyes, but outside of anomalies, only Caucasians produce blonde hair. Same for red hair btw.