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I believe there was no real choice - in practical terms it was too much of a mess (for everyone involved) if the subsidies were lost.Read more @: [/FONT][/COLOR]Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies
Story just now breaking. More info to come soon. Millions of Americans get to keep their healthcare. A huge win for the Obama admin.
The lesson here is lying and deception to gain support for a law once passed is A-OK. All the politicians have to do is say, "Well, we did it for your own good" and all is forgiven. :mrgreen:
democrats had a chance to clean up their mess and they failed. they had a chance to stop it before the mess began to begin with.
they can't change the law Obama refuses and veto's any change made to it.
we will have to wait till 2016 when he is voted out to get this destructive law out of the way.
then please tell me what they can pass to fix this mess (there is no fixing this the way the bill is by the way) that Obama won't veto or democrats won't filibuster?
enlighten us.
Any evidence to back that up? Has the rate of increase slowed over the past few years?
I gotta laugh at the response from reactionaries in this thread. They're all over the lot. "It's great news! Now the Democrats will be forced to continue defending the Act." "What a disaster for the country!" Just what I'd expect from people who can't think things through clearly.
The legislation will continue to gain in popularity, and for good reason. A win for Democrats and democracy.
Anecdotal, unproven, irrelevant.
Obviously reasonable minds can come to different conclusions. The point was there was legal precedent on both sides. It's just not a slam dunk case.
Yes we know, Democrats caused a mess, and it's the Republicans fault if they don't clean it up.
Lot's of other things to address. Why not let people live with what the Democrats did to them. Seems reasonable to me.
I believe there was no real choice - in practical terms it was too much of a mess (for everyone involved) if the subsidies were lost.
And these guys are pros at using logical argument to get wherever they'd like to go; reference Justice Roberts declaring ObamaCare a tax to keep it alive!
Conservatives didn't draft a piss poor bill, so poorly written that it needs to go to SCOTUS to be interpreted.
I believe there was no real choice - in practical terms it was too much of a mess (for everyone involved) if the subsidies were lost.
And these guys are pros at using logical argument to get wherever they'd like to go; reference Justice Roberts declaring ObamaCare a tax to keep it alive!
Read more @: [/FONT][/COLOR]Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies
Story just now breaking. More info to come soon. Millions of Americans get to keep their healthcare. A huge win for the Obama admin.
The Govt. mandated that a person must pay, is that not a tax?
Estimated at 16 million would lose coverage in those States.
And the Republicans would not /did not have a plan other than repealing Obamacare.
they are expecting a 20-40% increase again this year on obamacare plans how is that getting cheaper?
The Govt. mandated that a person must pay, is that not a tax?
Estimated at 16 million would lose coverage in those States.
And the Republicans would not /did not have a plan other than repealing Obamacare.
don't read the news do you.
Millennials
O-Care premiums to skyrocket | TheHill
and the big one for next year
Obamacare: 2016 sticker shock | WashingtonExaminer.com
so yes your post is irrelevant in the face of facts.
Obamacare Increases Large Employers' Health Costs - Forbes
yep your post is even more irrelevant.
Well, yes it's technically a tax (because the SC says so), but it's essentially forcing Americans to buy a private product by virtue of their simply being alive.The Govt. mandated that a person must pay, is that not a tax?
Estimated at 16 million would lose coverage in those States.
And the Republicans would not /did not have a plan other than repealing Obamacare.
I have heard about some insurance companies requesting double digit increases - those are requests, not approvals - and the insurance companies which do increase their prices still have to compete (on a website where it is easy to compare numerous plans against each other) with the rest of the insurance companies that maintain competitive pricing.
The Govt. mandated that a person must pay, is that not a tax?
Estimated at 16 million would lose coverage in those States.
And the Republicans would not /did not have a plan other than repealing Obamacare.
If they don't want to clean up the "mess" caused by Democrats, why did they run for office and why would anyone vote for them? Any moron can take office, collect big donations from billionaires, and sit on their rear pointing fingers at the other guys...
The irony here is striking. The majority is accused of legislating from the bench because they did not strike down a key provision of the ACA on a legal technicality due to an ambiguously worded phrase in a 900 page bill. To any reasonable individual, not blinded by partisanship, the three dissenters were the obvious judicial activists in this one.
Since it was voted into law the American people have been against the law. While I disagree with the SOCTUS ruling, I guess the upside is that Democrats can't run from this legislation anymore.
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