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What Gruber said is irrelevant, the people don't make laws, Congress does. I think you need to go back and take a civics class. :roll:
You have no idea what Obamacare is costing nor does the govt. You buy the rhetoric and ignore the reality. Why do you keep buying Obama lies?
It's not even close to being Constitutional, lol...
No rational, informed, honest person would conclude that it is Constitutional. Only corrupt, dishonest, activist jurists would approve it. Exhibit A: The SCOTUS. All 9 need to be impeached.
Obamacare cost the Democrats Congress
Yes we do: CBO: Repeal of ACA would raise economic output (per dynamic scoring) - PNHP's Official Blog
Repealing it would increase the deficit by over $100 billion.
Why can't you accept a reality that doesn't favor your prejudices?
Talk is cheap; impeach them or deal with their decision. I applaud it!
And what incentives would those be? You have no idea what Obamacare is costing nor does the govt. You buy the rhetoric and ignore the reality. Why do you keep buying Obama lies?
Because of lies, distortions and better attack ads from GOPs and spineless DEMs running from their POTUS as GOPs did in 2006.
Yeah. Because whereas Ronald Reagan barely knew how to run anything, having only been a multi-time governor and involved in national-level politics for decades. Rubio is a first term senator. And the last one of those who we hired to be President worked out just awesome.
I believe you need to re-read Jeremiah and Lamentations, and consider what the Divine Hand does to nations who reject Him.
:lol: we have liabilities of over $100 Trillion and we only own $85 Trillion worth of stuff. When was the last time America had a negative net value?
Oh yeah, and we're doing awesome at that.
Wait, wait, wait... no. No, we're not, because it's hard. Instead we are whining about being the only superpower in the world and trying to take our ball and go home.
Yup. We are brilliant at sharing funny pictures of cats and finding ways to sell advertising next to those pictures of cats. I do have to give us that.
Oh goody. Because if there is one thing I really want to brag on, it's American media.
No we aren't. We are absent on the world stage. We aren't interested in the world stage. We think the world stage is annoying, it's a bore, and besides, george bush, like, lied about saddam in order to invade us on 9/11, or something. The Navy is down to the smallest that it's been since World War One, and we're slashing the Air Force, Army, and Marines as well.
You have to have will to be dominant, and we don't have the will. Take a look at any one of our major opponents across the world and ask yourself between Iran, Russia, and China, which one of these nations' leadership really worries that America might come kick their butt in an expensive, bloody war, if they push us too much?
We are 10th on the list of debt to GDP. You want to know who has a lower debt than us? Canada. Want to know who has a debt even lower than theirs? Australia.
But that's just debt to GDP. Debt to GDP is only the beginning. When you compare our debt to how much we collect in revenue, we're literally right behind Greece. Then when you compare our unfunded liabilities to GDP.... :shrug:
Yup. See the point immediately above this one.
:shrug: true enough.
But you know who I would trade places with? Canada or Australia. Because they are more conservative than we are.
Sure. After all he's got good hair and he talks pretty - obviously he's going to be a brilliant administrator with qualifications like that :roll: He'll say the magic words to the Money Tree they keep behind the White House and all of a sudden we'll get 5% growth in GDP, the boomers will discover that they really did save a million dollars a piece for retirement and just forgot to report it, everyone will start marrying their childrens' other parent, and we'll pass entitlement reform allowing for privatized social security accounts to boot. The laws of mathematics will be suspended just for us because we think we're so special.
Because of lies, distortions and better attack ads from GOPs and spineless DEMs running from their POTUS as GOPs did in 2006.
DEMs won't have that problem in 2016--as you saw today.
GOPs--who can run furthest to the right?
Can't wait to see Trump and nine other clowns on the Cleveland, OH stage August 6th .
Please name for me one CBO Projection that has been accurate?
no, they didn't, Ted Kennedy proposed spending more than double what the final program actually cost.
Democrats and people like you have no concept of incentive and allowing people to decide what is best for them. Your one size fits all program like SS and Medicare are now trillions in debt but that doesn't bother you so you want another program just like them, Obamacare.
Just admit it, you are a liberal ideologue
Good point. For five straight years the ACA has cost less than the CBO projections. Obamacare
When you're right, you're right!
I stopped reading at liberal ideologue, Conservative.
Do you believe this is the worst possible thing you can ever call a person ?
So now YER all the way back to Social Security and FDR, eh Conservative ?
Absolutely stunning at how indoctrinated so many people are in this country today, people who believe it is the Federal Governments responsibility to take over personal responsibility issues of individual Americans. Incredible how poorly informed people are in that most do not seem to understand where the money comes from to fund these programs nor do they seem to care if someone else pays for their personal responsibility issues. This country has far too many people that have been Gruberized.
Actually I think it was a crushing recession that cost the party in power--as they always do.
There is a perverse pleasure watching our right-wing friends post page after page of how this now settled law is somehow not a law just because they were sure the SCOTUS would rule in their favor. There must be some tear-soaked keyboards in the rooms of some of our most fundamental right wing nuts here at the DP.
JasperL;1064755780]When the GOP stands on repealing Medicare and SS and replacing it with nothing, I'll believe that nonsense. When the ACA passed, the GOP ran on scaring grandma that Obama was going to cut their Medicare to fund socialized medicine. Gruberized right wingers held signs, "Keep your government hands off my Medicare."
So lectures on being Gruberized by a "conservative" who votes for a party that defends socialized Medicine (Medicare) against another less socialized medical insurance program make me laugh.
FWIW, we pay plenty of taxes, and lots of it goes to stuff I don't like. That's life in an industrialized country. I'll deal with it. Tired of whiners living in a first world country and complaining that they have to pay taxes for the privilege. Boo hooo.
It's certainly not going to be overturned by the judiciary. ACA remains politically vulnerable because it was enacted on a party line basis. If the 2016 elections result in Repub control of House, Senate and White House then ACA could be an early casualty.
The GOP had a flawless plan to take the House in 2010. (see the GOP architect who was interviewed by Maddow a few months ago)
Also, DEMs crushed themselves by not voting, just as they did in 1990--these two census mid-terms gave us this Gerry-Mandered House.
Dems have nobody to blame but themselves for not voting--which is why Clinton will NOT tack too far to the center.
In 2014, 33% of all voters voted--depressing the turnout has been a hallmark of the GOP since the days of Nixon.
And chicken-**** DEMs ran away from their POTUS and his economy--one that McConnell tried to take credit for after the fact early on this year .
You have no clue as to what you are posting or how to read the articles you claim support your point of view.
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