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The U.S. Supreme Courtwill hear a challenge to President Obama's signature law on health care, it said Monday in an announcement that has nearly as much impact on partisan politics as the final decision has on the law itself.The challenge in the case, brought by 26 states out of Florida, is based on the constitutionality of the individual mandate in the Patient Accountability and Affordable Care Act, which requires that all Americans purchase health insurance. [h=2][/h]
The nine-member court will also look at severability, meaning if the mandate falls, could the rest of the law survive since it is primarily built on the revenues collected by forcing people to buy health care. The court is also folding in an additional case on the tax implications of the law.The case is one that all sides want heard. But hearing the case this session -- arguments could come in March -- means that a ruling will come in June -- in the heat of the 2012 election cycle.
Read more: Supreme Court To Hear Challenge To Obama Health Care Law | Fox News
either way it goes, i hope that it begins the process of opening medicare up to everyone. that should have been the solution instead of this employment-based private health care boondoggle.
So how will Obama spin this come the decision when the SCOTUS strikes down his law?
Yes, open up a program that is failing, massively over budget to all American's, that's sure to be a good idea!
Seriously, folks, he means it! You can't make this **** UP.
So how will Obama spin this come the decision when the SCOTUS strikes down his law?
So how will Obama spin this come the decision when the SCOTUS strikes down his law?
Yes, open up a program that is failing, massively over budget to all American's, that's sure to be a good idea!
<shrug>
Heck, he has shown he will ignore any law or any court decision he doesn't like...why should this be any different?
<shrug>
Heck, he has shown he will ignore any law or any court decision he doesn't like...why should this be any different?
Here is the irony of Obamacare. It was crafted from what Mitt Romney did in Massachusetts, and Mitt Romney has the lead among Republicans as the man to replace Obama. This is what can be called one of those WTF moments of American History. LOL.
How do you know that they are going to "strike down his law"?
Here is the irony of Obamacare. It was crafted from what Mitt Romney did in Massachusetts, and Mitt Romney has the lead among Republicans as the man to replace Obama. This is what can be called one of those WTF moments of American History. LOL.
it is a pretty good idea, actually.
For Profit medical care, creates this little thing called competition. There are many many many reasons for health care costs where they are at, profit, is not one of them.first, providing the majority of health care through for-profit companies is failing because health care is an essential service with inelastic demand. that means the price is only going up, and quickly at that.
Actually, you have it bassackwards. Anytime Government "promises" payment, costs go up. Why do you think Government projects are always over budget? Hmmm?second, if a larger amount of patients are enrolled in medicare, it will have more power to be a downward force on bloated prices.
Single payer is the worst ****ing idea since the Edsel.steps toward single payer will have to be accompanied by increased revenue to the program and serious cost control, however.
Of course, since the pay won't be there, you'll get lesser talent as brighter minds will go where the compensation is.we can start by significantly increasing the supply of doctors.
The only thing we can agree on.also, there is no reason that it should cost a billion dollars to bring a prescription drug to market. the regulatory and legal structure needs serious examination.
Because it's unconstitutional. Duh.
Because it's unconstitutional. Duh.
Now that's what you would call circular reasoning.
The interesting question is what happens if they strike down the mandate but leave the rest of the bill standing.
Because it's unconstitutional. Duh.
For Profit medical care, creates this little thing called competition.
There are many many many reasons for health care costs where they are at, profit, is not one of them.
Actually, you have it bassackwards. Anytime Government "promises" payment, costs go up.
Single payer is the worst ****ing idea since the Edsel.
Of course, since the pay won't be there, you'll get lesser talent as brighter minds will go where the compensation is.
since most people are stuck with whatever their employer offers, not so much.
and since it's not feasible to drive one's child from hospital to hospital looking for the best price, not so much.
basically, the price is whatever they can drag out of an insurance company and your wallet. what's the patient going to do, walk out and die at home because it's too expensive?
part of it is that we have private, for-profit care providers and private, for-profit medicine producers mediated by private, for-profit middlemen negotiating the price. it's really not surprising that the prices have risen exponentially.
in a single payer scenario, the single payer has a lot more ability to impact prices because it has the largest percentage of the market. also, health care providers have more of an incentive not to invite price controls if most of their income is coming from one non-profit insurance provider rather than a number of private for-profit insurance companies.
if we had single payer and someone argued that we should ditch it in favor of health care tied to employment, that person would be laughed out of the room. and every large employer would fight the proposition tooth and nail.
i don't agree that people wouldn't become doctors if they couldn't command salaries in the multiple six digits. also increasing the amount of doctors in the pool can significantly reduce the workload of existing doctors. it's definitely something we should do.
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