rabbitcaebannog
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Neither of you have a clue what the case was about. Do you?
That seems doubtful. If the court wasn't willing to rule so broadly in this case what makes you think they are laying the brickwork to do so five years from now?
What does forced Union dues have to do with " Public Services "?
On the contrary, I sure do.
Yayy! Now they get all the benefits and representation that union offers for their employment but they dont have to pay the dues!
If you think this directly effects actual government employees, you don't.
Starving funds that are used by unions to represent workers won't effect them? It simply means those that are not freeloader will have to pay more because costs will not go down.
That is exactly what will happen. Just another way Republicans can try to not only defund and starve our public services but now also starve unions of any funds. Nothing like a good old fashion oligarchy.
Yayy! Now they get all the benefits and representation that union offers for their employment but they dont have to pay the dues!
Better to let unions fleece workers that want nothing to do with union jack thugs stealing thier money right?
Leave it to the Cato Institute. The real motive behind the whole fight is for business groups/think tanks to strip unions of money so they can't push their candidates into office like they (business groups) can since the United Citizen case. The only way these workers are going to make somewhat of a decent wage is through collective bargaining and part of the unions job is to advocate for a politicians who will allow collective bargaining rights to exist in the state. Otherwise, business groups will push in politicians that strip these rights from these workers and they essentially have no voice at all. As far as Republicans are concerned, they will leave them making bottom of the barrel wages because they don't give a rats arse.
So, you're ok with unions shaking down private citizens? You ready for welfare recipients to start paying union dues?
Without dues to collectively bargain, these workers will get paid rock bottom wages. The union isn't fleecing anyone because they are all benefiting from higher wages through collective bargaining.
Unions, especially public sector should be outlawed. They do far more harm them good, and destroy business and government not for the workers but for the union leaders bank accounts.
you have no idea what you are talking about.That's a bunch of horse manure. Those workers will only see any kind of pay increase with collective bargaining rights, otherwise they'd get jack squat.
you have no idea what you are talking about.
many of these people are taking care of family members or even friends. these people are lossing money out of their SS and or welfare checks to pay union dues. most of these people dont' see any wages from this but are forced to join the union to provide care for their own family.
so yea the union was shaking down private citizens and taking money from people that needed it the most.
So if you went to take care of your eldery mother because she needed it you would be forced to join the union pay union dues from her check and receive nothing in return.
That's a bunch of horse manure. Those workers will only see any kind of pay increase with collective bargaining rights, otherwise they'd get jack squat.
No, they'll out price thier jobs and break states ability to pay "retirement". Unions are parasites.That's a bunch of horse manure. Those workers will only see any kind of pay increase with collective bargaining rights, otherwise they'd get jack squat.
So drunk on union lies are you. Michigan did this to, freed the home healthcare folks from union chicanery.These people are getting paid with the same money any state home healthcare worker receives.
Private citizens are not being shaken down:roll:
In the case of California, after the legislators cashed the unions checks given to buy legislation changing the workers to state employees, the in home workers compensation did go up. On the other hand, their ranks exploded to over 264,000 today, netting the SEIU over $60 million annually from the investment in the liberal/progressive legislators they bought.
Further on the down side, the fraud has been ignored, and it's the working taxpayers (a shrinking percentage in Progressive California) who are footing the bill. Just can't see how all that is a plus.
No, they'll out price thier jobs and break states ability to pay "retirement". Unions are parasites.
Well that really is the contention. The GOP is seething mad that the union can campaign for legislators that will allow collective bargaining in the state. It's pretty transparent because like I already said they don't give a damn if those healthcare workers get paid the lowest possible denominator.
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