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Supreme Court allows Trump birthright citizenship order to continue - for now

Yeah, sure"originalists". They're going against the plain language of the constitution to serve Trumps right wing agenda.

**** Biden was a *****. He should have locked Trump up for election fraud, expanded the court and announced he was stepping down after one term
 
I agree with the ruling to the extent it disallows judge shopping from here on in.
 
Blue Dog said:
I agree with the ruling to the extent it disallows judge shopping from here on in.
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It doesn't disallow "judge shopping", the GOP running to their favorite Texas, Mississippi, Louisiana, etc. judge or the DEMs running Maryland, Massachusetts, Washington, etc. will still happen.

The cases will still be filed in the preferred Federal District, and the filings will now request Class Action Status as Justices Kavanaugh and Sotomayor suggested in Friday's SCOTUS order.

The first filing in regards to Birthright Citizenship and requesting a new injunction under Class Action certification occurred within a couple of hours.

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Blue Dog said:
A judge in a red state district cannot issue an injunction in a blue state district.
Are you saying that is incorrect?
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Partially incorrect. It's presented as a binary statement. As "either/or" if you will. It's more of yes, no, sometimes situation.

I'm saying that with Class Action certification that a Judge in any federal district can issue a nationwide injunction. So in Class Action cases a "red state district" CAN issue an injunction in a "blue state district".

Sorry for the odd image, but it occurred over a page break from Justice Kavanaugh's concurring opinion.

Class Action certification motion was filed within 2 hours of the SCOTUS issuing the decision.

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Linuxcooldude said:
You might have a ban on future sales, but good luck confiscating 350 million or so firearms. A lot of boating accidents are likely to occur and they get lost at sea.

Only real way to ban firearms is to repeal the 2A. Good luck.
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Yet again... You're missing the point.

It's not about "could Harris seize every firearm in the US?" It's that this ruling makes it extremely difficult to stop the President -- ANY President -- from issuing and immediately executing unconstitutional edicts, and doing lots of damage before anyone can possibly stop it.

Let us know when you get a clue, kthx.
 
Having had a chance to digest this more, it strikes me just how bad this ruling is absent any discussion of birthright citizenship.

The end result of this is almost certainly more chaos in the Courts for the minor relief of limitations on universal injunction and grants certain entities, especially the Federal government, explicitly more power with regards to legal actions with an inherent ability to simply shift their operations to another, potentially more friendly, circuit.
 
Visbek said:
Yet again... You're missing the point.

It's not about "could Harris seize every firearm in the US?" It's that this ruling makes it extremely difficult to stop the President -- ANY President -- from issuing and immediately executing unconstitutional edicts, and doing lots of damage before anyone can possibly stop it.

Let us know when you get a clue, kthx.
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So how does anyone stop any of the three branches if they go rogue and don’t care about following the Constitution? Considering the Judicial branch allowed it, it still can initially be stopped by a class action lawsuit.

The Constitution preventing the government from removing rights is supposed to be difficult to change. The correct way would be writing an amendment repealing the 2A, not by writing an illegal EO that is already stopped by the 2A.
 
This will be KBJ's next dissent.

 
Federal judge issues new nationwide block against Trump’s order seeking to end birthright citizenship


Short lived interruption.

“The preliminary injunction is just not a close call to the court,” Laplante said during a hearing. “The deprivation of US citizenship and an abrupt change of policy that was longstanding … that’s irreparable harm.”

US citizenship, the judge added, “is the greatest privilege that exists in the world.”
 
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