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Supreme Court allows 14-year-old gang rape victim to terminate pregnancy

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Given where we are talking about, I am shockingly impressed this girl is being allowed to abort.
 
God damn, I am glad to hear this case get resolved in a positive manner.
 
Anomalism said:
Supreme Court allows 14-year-old gang rape victim to terminate pregnancy : Gujarat, News - India Today

In a landmark verdict, the Supreme Court on Thursday allowed a 14-year-old rape victim to abort her baby. The girl, who is 24 weeks pregnant, had approached the apex court after the Gujarat high court denied her permission to abort her pregnancy .
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Immoral bastards.

MrT said:
God damn, I am glad to hear this case get resolved in a positive manner.
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I was unaware they changed their minds.
 
Paleocon said:
Immoral bastards.

I was unaware they changed their minds.
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A lower court had already ruled that she could not terminate the pregnancy. The Supreme Court overruled that decision (and similarly broke from their own previous rulings).
 
MrT said:
A lower court had already ruled that she could not terminate the pregnancy. The Supreme Court overruled that decision (and similarly broke from their own previous rulings).
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So they resolved in a bad way, not a good one.
 
Paleocon said:
So they resolved in a bad way, not a good one.
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By allowing a young girl to decide what happened to her body after she was raped and impregnated?

No, they made the right decision.
 
MrT said:
By allowing a young girl to decide what happened to her body after she was raped and impregnated?

No, they made the right decision.
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By allowing a young girl to murder her child.
 
Paleocon said:
By allowing a young girl to murder her child.
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A human being needs to be in existence and killed before murder can take place.
 
MrT said:
A human being needs to be in existence and killed before murder can take place.
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Yes exactly. Which is why this is murder.
 
MrT said:
A fetus, even at 24 weeks, is not a human being.
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It's a being. It exists.

If it's not a human being then what is it? A fish?
 
Paleocon said:
It's a being. It exists.

If it's not a human being then what is it? A fish?
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A fetus or an unborn human being. Neither are classified as human beings.
 
MrT said:
A fetus or an unborn human being. Neither are classified as human beings.
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An unborn human being isn't a human being? Lrn2Engl
 
Paleocon said:
An unborn human being isn't a human being? Lrn2Engl
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Learn to recognize the difference between making an argument based on semantics and one made on legal and medical fact.
 
MrT said:
Learn to recognize the difference between making an argument based on semantics and one made on legal and medical fact.
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It's not semantics. It's basic logic. An X (e.g. human being) that is Y (e.g. unborn) is a subset of X.
 
Anomalism said:
Supreme Court allows 14-year-old gang rape victim to terminate pregnancy : Gujarat, News - India Today

In a landmark verdict, the Supreme Court on Thursday allowed a 14-year-old rape victim to abort her baby. The girl, who is 24 weeks pregnant, had approached the apex court after the Gujarat high court denied her permission to abort her pregnancy .
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There is hope for some parts of the world after all.

Good for India, and especially good for that poor little girl.
 
Paleocon said:
It's not semantics. It's basic logic. An X (e.g. human being) that is Y (e.g. unborn) is a subset of X.
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And yet the qualifier or adjective in many instances is enough to disqualify the noun from being legally classified as such.

For example, a non-existent ball is a ball that does not exist. You have X (e.g. the ball) that is Y (e.g. non-existent) and, as such, the non-existent ball is not a subset of "balls."

The same exists here. An un-born human being is not a human being in the legal or medical sense of the term.
 
MrT said:
And yet the qualifier or adjective in many instances is enough to disqualify the noun from being legally classified as such.

For example, a non-existent ball is a ball that does not exist. You have X (e.g. the ball) that is Y (e.g. non-existent) and, as such, the non-existent ball is not a subset of "balls."

The same exists here. An un-born human being is not a human being in the legal or medical sense of the term.
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Sure it's a subset. Note that it's not comparable anyway, as it would be literally impossible to kill a non-existent human being, whereas it is entirely possible to kill an unborn human being.

And if the law is contrary to logic, then the law is the problem, not logic.
 
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