Suicide bomber was former Guantanamo detainee

[ReverendHellh0und]

Looks like we are reaping what we sew with premature releases of GITMO prisoners based on liberal pressure....

Suicide bomber was former Guantanamo detainee


A man who carried out a suicide attack in the northern Iraqi city of Mosul has been identified as a former Kuwaiti detainee at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, a US military spokesman said.

"One of the recent suicide bombers in Mosul has been identified as Abdallah Salih al-Ajmi, a former Guantanamo Bay detainee," said Major Bradford Leighton, a US military spokesman in Baghdad.


Suicide bomber was former Guantanamo detainee - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Now about that terrorist journalist we just released. :roll:

 

[PeteEU]

Or the treatment of him at Gitmo drove him to insanity and hatred and hence willing to give his life to hurt those that hurt him.

 

[ReverendHellh0und]

Or the treatment of him at Gitmo drove him to insanity and hatred and hence willing to give his life to hurt those that hurt him.

nonsensensical blame America first plop.


Was it the quality of the Korans handed out or the Muslim sensetive menu he chose his food from that drove him to this. :roll:

 

[PeteEU]

nonsensensical blame America first plop.


Was it the quality of the Korans handed out or the Muslim sensetive menu he chose his food from that drove him to this. :roll:

Yea its just Club Med at Gitmo right? get a reality check.

 

[Iriemon]

I'd guess HH's point here is that the Govt should not have released the many hundreds of prisoners it mistakenly locked up for years without charges, process, hearings, or trials.

What percentage of those released have later committed a terrorists attack?

 

[PeteEU]

I'd guess HH's point here is that the Govt should not have released the many hundreds of prisoners it mistakenly locked up for years without charges, process, hearings, or trials.

What percentage of those released have later committed a terrorists attack?

What percentage of those imprisoned commited actual terrorist attacks?

 

[Iriemon]

What percentage of those imprisoned commited actual terrorist attacks?

Another good question.

We'd have the same luck as trying to answer that question regarding folks looked up in Cuba or Zimbabwe or any other place where the Govt locks people away indefinitely without charges or proving guilt.

What an ugly, dark stain on the land of the free and home of brave.

 

[dixon76710]

I'd guess HH's point here is that the Govt should not have released the many hundreds of prisoners it mistakenly locked up for years without charges, process, hearings, or trials.

"Mistakenly"???? This isnt county lockup. Charges, process hearings and trials are for criminals. Captured combatants are imprisoned so they cant resume being combatants. They mistakenly released him thinking he wouldnt return to combat.

 

[Hatuey]

Looks like we are reaping what we sew with premature releases of GITMO prisoners based on liberal pressure....

Really? Does this happen often?

Now about that terrorist journalist we just released. :roll:

The one we had so much on that we had to let him go after only 2 years? Oh the naive children.

 

[americanwoman]

Charges, process hearings and trials are for criminals.

Actually, in America, everyone is entitled to those things. Ever heard of innocent until proven guilty?

 

[Iriemon]

"Mistakenly"???? This isnt county lockup. Charges, process hearings and trials are for criminals. Captured combatants are imprisoned so they cant resume being combatants. They mistakenly released him thinking he wouldnt return to combat.

You'd fit right in in Zimbabwe.

But the Govt doesn't say they are POWs

 

[Harshaw]

Actually, in America, everyone is entitled to those things. Ever heard of innocent until proven guilty?

No. POWS and other wartime combatant prisoners have NEVER been entitled to those things. Not in the US, not in any country, ever.

 

[dixon76710]

Actually, in America, everyone is entitled to those things. Ever heard of innocent until proven guilty?

Not in our history. "Proven guilty"??? Being a combatant isnt a crime. What is it you want proven?

 

[Harshaw]

You'd fit right in in Zimbabwe.

But the Govt doesn't say they are POWs

Neither did Dixon.

 

[dixon76710]

You'd fit right in in Zimbabwe.

But the Govt doesn't say they are POWs

Combatants can be imprisoned in war regardless of their status of POW or illegal combatants. Not sure of your point other than you seem to disagree with the basic geneva convention rules that allow for the imprisoning of captured combatants.

 

[Harshaw]

Combatants can be imprisoned in war regardless of their status of POW or illegal combatants. Not sure of your point other than you seem to disagree with the basic geneva convention rules that allow for the imprisoning of captured combatants.

One would note that Gitmo is run according to the standards of treatment afforded by the Conventions to POW status, which is the highest standard. It's not required for non-uniformed combatants; they could be summarily shot.

Lots of people yap about the Geneva Conventions. So few know what they actually say.

 

[Iriemon]

Neither did Dixon.

In other words, its just a label to make an excuse for or Govt treating people like Cuba and Zimbabawe.

We already knew that.

 

[Iriemon]

One would note that Gitmo is run according to the standards of treatment afforded by the Conventions to POW status, which is the highest standard. It's not required for non-uniformed combatants; they could be summarily shot.

Lots of people yap about the Geneva Conventions. So few know what they actually say.

Sure they could be summarily shot. The Nazis did it, we could too.

 

[John1234]

Or the treatment of him at Gitmo drove him to insanity and hatred and hence willing to give his life to hurt those that hurt him.

Quite possible.
It would fall in line with how our prison systems work.
Most of the time they come out much more hardened and with plenty of hatred towards society.

It is also possible that he made his connection with AQ inside GITMO.

But it is also possible that he was a son of a bitch the entire time and just waiting for his chance.

We will never know for sure.

 

[ReverendHellh0und]

Yea its just Club Med at Gitmo right? get a reality check.

Never said that. But lets use something we Americans like to call logic.

Which is more likley. We rounded up an innocent man and drove him to what we origionally locked him up for or that we had it right the first time and he realized his potential upon release.

You, sir. Get a clue. :roll:

 

[Harshaw]

In other words, its just a label to make an excuse for or Govt treating people like Cuba and Zimbabawe.

We already knew that.

Specific, documented examples at Gitmo?

BTW, according the Geneva Conventions, "POW" is a status which may be granted ONLY to uniformed, regular troops. This is to encourage the wearing of uniforms, so that combatant may be differentiated from civilian, thus saving civilian lives. To engage in combat and not wear a uniform is a WAR CRIME.

So, no one at Gitmo is entitled to the highest level of status, POW. But they're being treated according to it anyway.

 

[Harshaw]

Sure they could be summarily shot. The Nazis did it, we could too.

If you have a problem with the standards laid out in the Geneva Conventions, take it up with the signatory governments.

 

[ReverendHellh0und]

I'd guess HH's point here is that the Govt should not have released the many hundreds of prisoners it mistakenly locked up for years without charges, process, hearings, or trials.

What percentage of those released have later committed a terrorists attack?

Historically how long have prisoners captured in battle remained in enemy custody?

 

[ReverendHellh0und]

What percentage of those imprisoned commited actual terrorist attacks?

Oh so only if they kill Americans or others are you willing to lock them up? :roll:

 

[ReverendHellh0und]

In other words, its just a label to make an excuse for or Govt treating people like Cuba and Zimbabawe.

We already knew that.

Uhm any proof of this? :roll: