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It was as true then as it is now!
It was as true then as it is now!It has been true of people throughout history. My sig line is excerpted from Ben Franklin's essay:
. . .I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth I traveled much, and I observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer. . . .--Benjamin Franklin, On the Price of Corn and Management of the Poor, November 1766
The Republocrats in general use the poor to form their political propaganda bitchfest. It's one of the topics they use to try to pretend there's a difference, when functionally they'll just do the same thing anyway. Both the R and the D love government dependence, it's good for their power.
It also seems true that Republicans feel forced to compete in handing out freebies to the people or they will be accused of being against the poor (or pick any group). Of course moving in the opposite direction, which they seem to be doing now, would actually be more popular.It is true that permanent political class in Washington is pretty much cut from one piece of cloth and both Republican and Democrats share common motives of increasing their personal power, prestige, influence, and wealth. The difference is that the Democrats represent a group of people who seem to WANT bondage in return for cradle to grave security, however ineptly or destructively it is delivered. The Republican represent those of us who believe that government that does only what it constitutionally must do and then leaves the people alone to live their lives is the best government.
It also seems true that Republicans feel forced to compete in handing out freebies to the people or they will be accused of being against the poor (or pick any group). Of course moving in the opposite direction, which they seem to be doing now, would actually be more popular.
Please name for me the dependence created by Republicans?
Do you live in Furgeson?A lawless regime? Wow, I just checked out of my window but I don't see the riots starting yet. Please, keep me posted.
It has been true of people throughout history. My sig line is excerpted from Ben Franklin's essay:
. . .I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth I traveled much, and I observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer. . . .--Benjamin Franklin, On the Price of Corn and Management of the Poor, November 1766
This was bullying by the federal government. The offenders were in a subcontracted janitorial service. But the subcontractors don't have deep pockets so the Feds, a crime syndicate, went after Walmart.Wal-Mart to Pay $11 Million
Chain Settles Illegal-Worker Investigation
Wal-Mart to Pay $11 Million (washingtonpost.com)
Safety. The Republican arm of the Republocrats is big on the fear mongering. Don't think for yourself, government will keep you safe....by spying on you and restricting your rights and liberties and otherwise draconian, Big Brother tactics.
It's all a ruse, everything the Republocrats do is to increase size and scope and power of government.
What they need are people who will actually uphold the Constitution. They "did it" because they are tyrants. The Supreme Court upheld it because they too, are tyrants. The founders anticipated this. That is why Article V was written to give the state legislatures to call for a convention of states to propose amendments independent of the federal government.Ah yes, it is very clear. Which is why they did, and the courts have (so far) allowed it. Maybe you should get a law degree and get appointed to the Supreme Court - they clearly need you.
Interestingly I just looked. Your post was to no one in particular. The quote mechanism, poor as it is, can help maintain context if context is intended.Misterveritis - you shouldn't jump into conversations if you don't know what they are about. This was in response to Conservative and the lady who has the cattle horns as her avatar, who both believed they knew exactly how all of the Founding Fathers felt about social programs and health care. Turns out, they didn't know anything.
Perhaps your lense is cracked.I can't respond to you anymore. Nothing you say is coherent.
For some people tyranny cannot come soon enough.Do you not get it? I want full unvervsal health care. It doesn't have to be disguised for me. How do you not get that? Is it that hard? Let me spell it for you:
I WANTED IT, AND PERSONALLY, IT DIDN'T GO FAR ENOUGH FOR ME.
I know this is hard for you to understand but the main role of the Federal Govt. is PROVIDING for the Common Defense but I don't see an answer to the Question as to what dependence on the Federal Govt have the Republicans initiated?
It's not too often you see people coming out against public safety.Safety. The Republican arm of the Republocrats is big on the fear mongering. Don't think for yourself, government will keep you safe....by spying on you and restricting your rights and liberties and otherwise draconian, Big Brother tactics.
It's all a ruse, everything the Republocrats do is to increase size and scope and power of government.
There's defense, and then there is excessive government force against the rights and liberties of the people. I know it's hard for you to understand. From the War on Drugs to the War on Terror, Republicans have used fear mongering to expand their power and act against the People. It's a way to make people dependent upon the government for every little thing. Before you know it, 1 person gets ebola and people are trained to freak out and run to the government.
The main role of the Federal Government is to uphold and proliferate our rights and liberties. Common defense is but a piece of that bigger picture. I know that's hard for you to understand.
HITLER FINDS OUT FIELD MARSHAL GRUBER SPILLED THE BEANS
In the video below, we catch a glimpse of Hitler’s reaction to the Grubergate videos.
I wish I could have seen Obama’s reaction when he heard of Gruber's leak. It couldn’t have been too far off from what is depicted here. :lamo
It's not too often you see people coming out against public safety.
You appear to be confusing the GOP with Conservativeism. All Conservatives can do is hope to influence the Republican Party, just as the far left influenced the Democrats.
I am a Constitutional Conservative. I know other Constitutional Conservatives. None of us believe the Republicans will do the right thing and save the nation. You are simply wrong.NOPE. Conservatives (lilke the poster I was responding to) genuinely believe that those GOP pols they voted for will do their bidding, i. e. oppose Obamacare.
NOPE. Conservatives (lilke the poster I was responding to) genuinely believe that those GOP pols they voted for will do their bidding, i. e. oppose Obamacare.
AS hard as it is for any sane person to believe, they're actually naive enough to not recognize that these pols are merely saying they oppose it, while actually supporting it.
And so I ask the question: what's the source of this mental deficiency? Anyone??!
Attack on what a business hiring someone to do work that doesn't require much other than OJT to do, is just not worth much. Largely because of the glut of labor looking for a job today. I know you'd like to say that things are so rosy in terms of employment today, because you buy into, lock, stock, and barrel that UE is actually below 6%, when in reality it isn't.
In my area, and with two adult children gearing up to shortly move out on their own, upon completing their education, we have done the math...to live on their own here it takes about $1600. per month. That equates to roughly $9.50 an hour. If you can find a job today, it doesn't take much to get to that number, and not by government force either.
Market forces will follow demand...Liberals in my mind have it backwards. You want government to tell business what they will pay, while at the same time destroying the availability of jobs to get...It doesn't work like that. And you being in business for yourself these days, I'd think you'd understand that.
This was bullying by the federal government. The offenders were in a subcontracted janitorial service. But the subcontractors don't have deep pockets so the Feds, a crime syndicate, went after Walmart.
This would have been clear to you if you were interested enough to seek the truth.
Right. No. It was bullying.it's just as likely Walmart was simply guilty.
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