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So Obamacare was all a Republican plot, was it? Are you part of the "Friends of Jonathan Gruber Society"?We know that the individual mandate was originally a Republican idea in congress in the 1990s. We know the first iteration of the ACA was implemented by a Republican in Massachusetts. We know that the biggest lie is that Republicans are stewards of liberty and the free market. They are diet socialist who put on a mask to fool their stupid voters.
The arrogance and condescension of the left leaves me utterly amazed.
Even more so now that the Gruber videos have been uncovered and brought forth, where he's basically bragging to his fellow leftists just on how ingenious he is committing fraud on the electorate.
A real POS this guy is. Real POS most leftists are.
We can only hope that this sets the leftist / progressive / liberal agenda back decades.
Real POS most leftists are.
So a vote for Barrack Obama must have been a vote against socialized medicine. I've never heard it explained quite that way before.A vote for Mitt Romney is a vote for socialized medicine, and we know almost every conservative voted for him. He implemented a statewide plan himself, so he clearly supports socialized medicine and obviously he wasn't going to do much, if anything with the ACA while president, if he won. Conservatives proved to the world they have no ideological backbone and became the laughing stock of partisan politics when they voted for him in droves. I just can't take anything conservatives say seriously anymore.
That seems to be a fair assessment. And if the targets of Gruber's comments can understand an 1,100 page 'tortuous' document they should be able to understand those six lines.
My best friend is a special forces officer currently serving in Afghanistan, and is a staunch leftist. I don't agree with his political stances, but find it funny when posters refer to an entire political party with some type of vulgar name or insult. I would bet my entire portfolio no one would ever call him a pos to his face. Internet warriors are so tuff!
reading comprehension is a valued skill that should be refined by everyone (they test for it in the military, law enforcement, and college). I never blamed Obamacare on Republicans, but highlighted Republican policies that supported or implemented socialized medicine, and this hasn't reduced any conservative support for the Republican Party. If you want to be taken seriously when making an idealogical stance, you can't support people who don't represent that ideology.
Well the Uzbekistanis are a pretty sophisticated bunch. If anyone knows, they would know.traveled to Uzbekistan, they say that Americans eat nogami.eto low level of education
I believe that Romney was pretty much forced into implementing RomneyCare by the heavily liberal / progressive / Democrat state legislature.
You taking voting for Romney in the presidential and against Obama as some sort of endorsement of socialized medicine surely is ideologically based distortion if there ever was.
My best friend is a special forces officer currently serving in Afghanistan, and is a staunch leftist. I don't agree with his political stances, but find it funny when posters refer to an entire political party with some type of vulgar name or insult. I would bet my entire portfolio no one would ever call him a pos to his face. Internet warriors are so tuff!
You taking voting for Romney as an endorsement for small government, free market conservatism surely is ideologically based distortion if there ever was.
A vote for Mitt Romney is a vote for socialized medicine, and we know almost every conservative voted for him. He implemented a statewide plan himself, so he clearly supports socialized medicine and obviously he wasn't going to do much, if anything with the ACA while president, if he won. Conservatives proved to the world they have no ideological backbone and became the laughing stock of partisan politics when they voted for him in droves. I just can't take anything conservatives say seriously anymore.
What law did congressional Republicans pass that socialized the entire medical system in Anerica?
Left alone Jonathan Gruber would have disappeared after a while but what makes this story interesting, and a lot of fun, are the people who now never heard of him, defend hm, claim it was someone else's fault, and so on.The guy made a laughing stock out of himself and if we had an honest media it'd be a lot more fun to watch the rich little ego tripper squirm.
But, alas, we don't so we'll have to settle for laughing at Media Matters and it's fanboys here on DP.
So some supported an individual mandate? And nothing was passed?Again reading comprehension. The statement you are referring to "highlighted Republican policies that supported or implemented socialized medicine," republicans in congress supported an individual mandated in 1993 in an opposite plan to Clinton's health plan. And Republican governor mitt Romney implemented socialized medicine in MA, and became the Republic nominee for president! What a joke. I could never vote for a party that nominated a diet socialist.
So some supported an individual mandate? And nothing was passed?
Sounds like a conspiracy to me!
You taking voting for Romney as an endorsement for small government, free market conservatism surely is ideologically based distortion if there ever was.
Doubt that is going to happen although results matter and Obama's results are what you want to ignore
Romney was just the lesser of two evils. I'm sure you can work that out.
Oh absolutely ... and this guy is dripping with that characteristic.Left alone Jonathan Gruber would have disappeared after a while but what makes this story interesting, and a lot of fun, are the people who now never heard of him, defend hm, claim it was someone else's fault, and so on.
I've followed Leftist politics for quite a while now anddespite their infamous screw-ups over the years. I've no doubt that Gruber is representative of Left Wing leaders and that his fellow travelers believe themselves to be remarkably sophisticated about economics, human needs and understand intuitively and definitely what other people need and want in their lives.they always claim to know what's best for 'the masses',
'The masses' are always other people, "and we can all understand why it's not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations". The masses have to be told what's good for them.
Romney was just the lesser of two evils. I'm sure you can work that out.
Left alone Jonathan Gruber would have disappeared after a while but what makes this story interesting, and a lot of fun, are the people who now never heard of him, defend hm, claim it was someone else's fault, and so on.
I've followed Leftist politics for quite a while now and they always claim to know what's best for 'the masses', despite their infamous screw-ups over the years. I've no doubt that Gruber is representative of Left Wing leaders and that his fellow travelers believe themselves to be remarkably sophisticated about economics, human needs and understand intuitively and definitely what other people need and want in their lives.
'The masses' are always other people, "and we can all understand why it's not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations". The masses have to be told what's good for them.
Mitt Romney did something similar years before in MA, and conservatives overwhelmingly voted for him in 2012. This just proved that conservative ideology is based around combating Obama, and that they are pretty apathetic when it comes to the destruction of socialism.
Obviously you don't understand a state program vs a one size fits all Federal Program. Suggest you learn what Romney actually did vs what Obama did. Healthcare is a state issue not a Federal one.
Left alone Jonathan Gruber would have disappeared after a while but what makes this story interesting, and a lot of fun, are the people who now never heard of him, defend hm, claim it was someone else's fault, and so on.
I've followed Leftist politics for quite a while now and they always claim to know what's best for 'the masses', despite their infamous screw-ups over the years. I've no doubt that Gruber is representative of Left Wing leaders and that his fellow travelers believe themselves to be remarkably sophisticated about economics, human needs and understand intuitively and definitely what other people need and want in their lives.
'The masses' are always other people, "and we can all understand why it's not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations". The masses have to be told what's good for them.
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