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Study: Obamacare Is Not Collapsing


Collapsing is when there is only one or zero insurers left in the market. If some areas go down to zero insurers you rabid partisans will still be saying that the Obamacare is not collapsing. One of the main reasons the market is collapsing is that there aren't enough people left to afford the Affordable Care Act.
 

LOL! You don't even realize that, not only are you wrong, that it's not even possible that you are right. It's like me asking you to think of a number, then when you tell me you were thinking of a different number than what I believe you were thinking, I then go on and argue that you are wrong and I know what you were thinking better than you do.
 
Erod said:
Lol, anyone with a rudimentary understanding of economics knows that Obamacare is a Ponzi scheme built to collapse.
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well if you actually read the thread instead of narcissistically assuming you're the first to mention it, you'd see that Fenton already brought up that obedient conservative narrative. Once I told him that according to conservative narratives, it was supposed to have collapsed already and that you and yours have been predicting "collapse" for 4 years, he cowardly cut and run. Lets see what you do. My money is on deflecting with incoherent babble. so in case you missed it, according to you and yours, it was supposed to have collapsed already and in spite of Trump's and republcans' sabotage, insurers are getting their 2018 plans ready.
 

oh A60, see how you have to post an incoherent "analogy" instead of replying to my post. If I'm so wrong, please explain how "show votes" doesn't equal "lying". Don't babble and whine about me, just explain. thanks in advance.
 

If its so simple to explain then why did Fenton cowardly deflect from the fact that according to conservatives like you and him it supposed to have collapsed by now. Hey since you're here, according to conservatives like you and Fenton, it was supposed to have collapsed already. How come it hasn't collapsed already in spite of republicans sabotage?
 
trouble13 said:
I dont respond to baiting from trolls.
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now I realize you're trying to cut and run but before you do, see how fenton couldn't answer a simple question about exactly what he posted? yea, he creates narratives in his own head to justify " I don't have to be honest and intelligent with Vern because he's such a .............". this is your future T13 if you want to continue to see the world thru conservative narratives instead of the facts.

Fenton said:
VERN is trying to contend with the realization that he's wasted thousands of hours on this site and many many years of his life defending the losing side.

Its no wonder he comes across as sullen and idignant as he does in literally every post.
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there is simply no justification for conservatives to not be honest and intelligent. America will benefit when you stop thinking there is.
 

Vernie, there is no one on this site more cowardly than you.
 

So you've opted out of unconstitutional Medicare and Social Security as well? Face reality: we have decided as a society that we are all in this together, and that something like Obamacare or Medicare for all will come to pass sooner or later. Get used to it.
 
Vern said:
oh A60, see how you have to post an incoherent "analogy" instead of replying to my post.
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Yeah, I've only replied like 5 times. You are doing that same thing over and over, and expecting a different result.
 
Anthony60 said:
Yeah, I've only replied like 5 times. You are doing that same thing over and over, and expecting a different result.
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Well the good news is you didn't post an incoherent reply. the bad news is you've explained nothing again. You keep telling me you weren't puzzled. But I read what you wrote. You cant even call them liars. They were lying for 7 years and the best you can manage is "show votes". see if you can find the courage to call them liars.
 
Costs are not going up because of Obamacare. Costs have been going up since before Bush2 because of our unwieldy healthcare system. Other developed nations are able to deliver healthcare at about 60% of our costs, based on % of GDP, at the same or, actually, higher quality level. Under Obamacare, healthcare is being delivered to more Americans, some 20 million more than before, than ever before. That's a success story. We should be complaining about the high cost of healthcare. It has continued to rise under Obamacare because we have too many profiteers and an administratively unwieldy system where other developed nations decided the affordability to their people was more important.
 
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