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Stossel on Mamdani

That was awful. Could have been an email. Choppy, grade school reading level rhetoric, just basic anarchist bullshit for the simple minded.
 
Bok Tuklo said:
That was awful. Could have been an email. Choppy, grade school reading level rhetoric, just basic anarchist bullshit for the simple minded.
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Stossel is not an anarchist, and I didn't seen anything in the video promoting anarchy.
 
aociswundumho said:
A short 6 minute video with a lot of footage of Mamdani I've never seen before.
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Lolbertarians ostensibly champion free speech and innovative liberal thought and then proceed to have an epileptic seizure when they see the word "Socialism", followed by a bunch of uncritical, low agency thinking.

Extra credit: The so-shul-ist in this case is Arab presenting and implied Palestinian kids shouldn't be blown into a million pieces, which basically makes him brown Hitler.
 
Gozaburo said:
Lolbertarians ostensibly champion free speech and innovative liberal thought and then proceed to have an epileptic seizure when they see the word "Socialism", followed by a bunch of uncritical, low agency thinking.
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So you support Mamdani's ideas for nyc, correct?
 
aociswundumho said:
So you support Mamdani's ideas for nyc, correct?
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No, I find his brand of socialism to be rather dysgenic and bourgeoise. I don't agree with the guy or think his politics are that productive, but I can appreciate that he's at least trying to update the framing of the discourse, which is more than I can say for 99% of other political discussion.
 
Gozaburo said:
No, I find his brand of socialism to be rather dysgenic and bourgeoise. I don't agree with the guy or think his politics are productive, but I can appreciate that he's at least trying to update the framing of the discourse, which is more than I can say for 99% of other political discussion.
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You will pry neoliberalism from the DNC’s cold, dead hands.
 
Bok Tuklo said:
That was awful. Could have been an email. Choppy, grade school reading level rhetoric, just basic anarchist bullshit for the simple minded.
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Response straight from the Saul Alinsky school of Debate. Don't address the issues, just throw enough poop to cover them up.
 
Gozaburo said:
No, I find his brand of socialism to be rather dysgenic and bourgeoise.
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Government-run grocery stores are bourgeois?

In the future, you might want to try learning what words mean first before using them.

Gozaburo said:
I don't agree with the guy or think his politics are productive, but I can appreciate that he's at least trying to update the framing of the discourse, which is more than I can say for 99% of other political discussion.
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Yes, he's "updating the framing of the discourse" by promoting ideas which have failed everywhere they've been tried over the last 100 years.
 
coyote505 said:
Response straight from the Saul Alinsky school of Debate. Don't address the issues, just throw enough poop to cover them up.
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What issues aren't being addressed? It's just more hyperventilating over "socialism". Meanwhile, someone needs to make a great defense of crony capitalism cause it sure as hell isn't serving Americans.
 
Bok Tuklo said:
His belief in the infallibility of the Market is religious in nature and it has caused him to stop thinking.
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The market doesn't have to be infallible, it just has to be better than the alternative.
 
aociswundumho said:
Government-run grocery stores are bourgeois?
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Oh my god are they. Can you imagine living in a country so wealthy that the government can run grocery stores? It's kind of fantastic and a great idea.
 
aociswundumho said:
Government-run grocery stores are bourgeois?

In the future, you might want to try learning what words mean first before using them.
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Listen guy: I just watched you debate other posters for 10 pages on a separate thread about how Nazism is ackshually left wing. You don't get to tell me what words mean as I'm not entirely sure you're even capable of reading.

And yes. I stand by calling Mamdani bourgeoise.

Yes, he's "updating the framing of the discourse" by promoting ideas which have failed everywhere they've been tried over the last 100 years.
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Ironic coming from a libertarian.
 
The Brad Dad said:
What issues aren't being addressed? It's just more hyperventilating over "socialism". Meanwhile, someone needs to make a great defense of crony capitalism cause it sure as hell isn't serving Americans.
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You choose Not to meet the issues of lack of functionality in the socialist system. There were plenty of issues. You just choose to ignore them.
 
Bok Tuklo said:
You will pry neoliberalism from the DNC’s cold, dead hands.
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Neoliberalism supports deregulation, privatization of public services, and reducing welfare.

Name some democrats who support any of that. I can't think of a single one.
 
coyote505 said:
Response straight from the Saul Alinsky school of Debate. Don't address the issues, just throw enough poop to cover them up.
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He’s doing schtick. It’s not even serious criticism. It’s just random blurbs and burps and out of context second or two vids while Stossel proselytizes.
 
aociswundumho said:
Neoliberalism supports deregulation, privatization of public services, and reducing welfare.

Name some democrats who support any of that. I can't think of a single one.
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Wow.

Where have you been since the early 90s?
 
coyote505 said:
You choose Not to meet the issues of lack of functionality in the socialist system. There were plenty of issues. You just choose to ignore them.
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What? If you've driven on any of our streets, called 911, or crossed a bridge - welcome to the functionality of a socialist system.
 
The Brad Dad said:
What? If you've driven on any of our streets, called 911, or crossed a bridge - welcome to the functionality of a socialist system.
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My streets are pot holed as Hell. The last time I called 911, I was on hold for more than 15 minutes. Many bridges in my state are dangerously out of repair, yet we still seem to have plenty of money for the Governor's welfare and Green initiatives.
 
coyote505 said:
My streets are pot holed as Hell. The last time I called 911, I was on hold for more than 15 minutes. Many bridges in my state are dangerously out of repair, yet we still seem to have plenty of money for the Governor's welfare and Green initiatives.
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Maybe don't be poor and live in an area that has money and adequate social services.

Time to bring yourself up by your bootstraps, son.
 
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