Stolen children 'marketplace': Russia creates 'catalogue' of Ukrainian kids for adoption

[Lord of Planar]

Returned to their country and kin. That is my thinking.

Yes, but that too is difficult to determine. Is suspect most the children being ethnic Russian, they would have relatives in Russia.

Riddle me this. Where are the children safer? In Russia or some other country, or in a warzone?

 

[Pyrite]

Yes, but that too is difficult to determine. Is suspect most the children being ethnic Russian, they would have relatives in Russia.

According to whom? You? You lack credibility on this matter. As for "ethnic Russian": again, you have no credibility re this claim. Remember, all you do is state your beliefs. Your opinions. What you want to be true.

Riddle me this. Where are the children safer? In Russia or some other country, or in a warzone?

They're not supposed to be kidnapped in the first place.

 

[Lord of Planar]

According to whom? You? You lack credibility on this matter. As for "ethnic Russian": again, you have no credibility re this claim.

Yes, I stated a belief that is likely true. The children were taken from the region with a majority of ethnic Russians. Odds favor that most the children will be ethnic Russians.

Is my logic flawed somehow? If so, please explain.

Remember, all you do is state your beliefs. Your opinions. What you want to be true.

I am not claiming facts like you are. I am pointing out you have allegations that you claim as fact. Why do you persist on claiming the allegations are fact? Why can't you see the facts?

They're not supposed to be kidnapped in the first place.

I suspect you want them to keep the children in a warzone.

OK....

 

[german hick]

And you trust the media?

Ok....

better than only trusting the media wich is exclusively vomitting the brutal and inhumane hard right egomaniac stuff you and your buddies from Maga think anyway and wanna read on daily basis. Only vegetating in ones own bubble makes dumb. America in big numbers completely lost it´s abilty to self reflection.

 

[Lord of Planar]

better than only trusting the media wich is exclusively vomitting the brutal and inhumane hard right egomaniac stuff you and your buddies from Maga think anyway and wanna read on daily basis. Only vegetating in ones own bubble makes dumb. America in big numbers completely lost it´s abilty to self reflection.

I don't trust any of them. You shouldn't either.

 

[Pyrite]

Yes, I stated a belief that is likely true. The children were taken from the region with a majority of ethnic Russians. Odds favor that most the children will be ethnic Russians.

Is my logic flawed somehow? If so, please explain.

I am not claiming facts like you are. I am pointing out you have allegations that you claim as fact. Why do you persist on claiming the allegations are fact? Why can't you see the facts?

I suspect you want them to keep the children in a warzone.

OK....

Suspect whatever you want.

I provide facts. Not "allegations". Facts.

You, on the other hand, provide not facts, but merely your beliefs. That's all. And, for some reason, you appear to endorse putin's kidnapping of Ukrainian children.

 

[german hick]

I don't trust any of them. You shouldn't either.

And I am quite confident that you made your way so dep into the Maga lies that you cannot get out without humilitation. So you stick your head in the sand and simply call anything lies that don´t fit in your construction while you get more and more lonesome in your sandhole cause cleverer Magas silently vanishhed.

 

[Pyrite]

Fact Sheet: Russia's Kidnapping and Re-education of Ukraine's Children

Overview of Yale HRL investigations into Russia's deportation, re-education, and placement of Ukraine's children.

medicine.yale.edu

March 17, 2025

Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine includes a systematic campaign of forcibly moving children from Ukraine into Russia, fracturing their connection to Ukrainian language and heritage through “re-education,” and even disconnecting children from their Ukrainian identities through adoption. Children documented by the Yale Humanitarian Research Lab (HRL) range in age from four months to 17 years, and many have families looking for them in Ukraine.

-- More than 19,000 children from Ukraine have been deported to Russia. Only 1,236 children have been returned to Ukraine. The actual number of children remaining in Russia is likely significantly higher.

-- Yale HRL has identified more than 8,400 children from Ukraine who have been systematically relocated to at least 57 facilities––including 13 facilities in Belarus and 43 facilities in Russia and Russia-occupied territory.

-- Russia targeted vulnerable groups of children for deportation, including orphans, children with disabilities, children from low-income families, and children with parents in the military....

-- There are documented cases in which children were physically abused, denied communication with their families in Ukraine, and given inadequate access to food and care after being taken to Russia.

-- Russia has refused to give Ukrainian authorities a list of children taken to Russia––as required by international law––and has engaged in various activities to conceal their forced deportation and illegal adoption of children from Ukraine.

-- The kidnapping and indoctrination, including military training, of children from Ukraine was ordered by Russia’s President Vladimir Putin and executed by Russia’s federal, regional, and occupation officials. Russia’s security services and criminal investigative agency systematically targeted vulnerable groups of children and transported them to Russia, where regional officials subjected them to re-education and listed children for adoption. Russia’s Investigative Committee has set recruitment quotas and designated a cadet school for children from Ukraine, creating a direct pipeline into federal security service....

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THIS is what @Lord of Planar is tacitly endorsing, with his continued denials that putin has kidnapped thousands of Ukrainian children.

 

[Lord of Planar]

And I am quite confident that you made your way so dep into the Maga lies that you cannot get out without humilitation.

You would like it to be that simple so you can understand what you want to believe. Wouldn't you?

So you stick your head in the sand and simply call anything lies that don´t fit in your construction while you get more and more lonesome in your sandhole cause cleverer Magas silently vanishhed.

I am not claiming that. I am only saying allegations are not automatically fact.

You would like to pigeonhole me into some fake narrative.

Sorry. You will never be capable of that.

 

[german hick]

You would like it to be that simple so you can understand what you want to believe. Wouldn't you?

I am not claiming that. I am only saying allegations are not automatically fact.

You would like to pigeonhole me into some fake narrative.

Sorry. You will never be capable of that.

In fact I could not care less where you are - I only react on your childish posts.

 

[uptower]

Yes, but that too is difficult to determine. Is suspect most the children being ethnic Russian, they would have relatives in Russia.

Riddle me this. Where are the children safer? In Russia or some other country, or in a warzone?

I think for such monstrous suggestions you should find a safe home for them on Epstein Island.

Shame on you for defending Putin's ethnic cleansing and trafficking of Ukrainian children. Seriously, how low can you go?

 

[Lord of Planar]

In fact I could not care less where you are - I only react on your childish posts.

You want childish?

Here:

I think for such monstrous suggestions you should find a safe home for them on Epstein Island.

Shame on you for defending Putin's ethnic cleansing and trafficking of Ukrainian children. Seriously, how low can you go?

I understand. You think they should have been abandoned on the battlefield.

OK....

 

[Pyrite]

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I understand. You think they should have been abandoned on the battlefield.

OK....

Post #112


No one has said or implied that "children should have been abandoned on the battlefield".

But your denials that putin has been kidnapping thousands of Ukrainian children show contempt for putin's young victims.

 

[Lord of Planar]

Post #112


No one has said or implied that "children should have been abandoned on the battlefield".

But your denials that putin has been kidnapping thousands of Ukrainian children show contempt for putin's young victims.

Believe as you wish.

 

[Rogue Valley]

Yes, but that too is difficult to determine. Is suspect most the children being ethnic Russian, they would have relatives in Russia.

Ethnicity is not the deterninitive. Citizenship is the determinitive.

According to the Geneva Conventions and the Laws of Armed Conflict, children cannot be removed from their birth country without the express permissions of their parents/guardians and their government.

This rule derives from the Nazis stealing Aryan-looking children in occupied countries and shipping them to Germany for forced labor, or medical experiments, or Germanization and adoption by German couples.

Children under foreign/military occupation must:

1) remain in-situ and be reunited with their parents/relatives/guardians
2) or be transferred to the government of their birth nation
3) or be handed over to the International Red Cross

Under no circumstances are they to be removed from their country of origin or considered prisoners of war.

Riddle me this. Where are the children safer? In Russia or some other country, or in a warzone?

See above.

For the second time: Your ugly and specious argument amounts to normalizing kidnapping. What is the matter with you?

 

[Rogue Valley]

Russian 'child snatcher' admits taking 700,000 children

A Russian official accused of war crimes has admitted to relocating more than 700,000 children from Ukraine.

www.telegraph.co.uk

Russian official Maria Lvova-Belova was indicted along with Vladimir Putin for War Crimes and Crimes Against Humanity.

 

[Roadvirus]

What you call credible media, of which it is not. They have participated in propagating lies.

I am only claiming your claims are bogus because you have no credible facts.

You're just pissed because he didn't quote anything from TASS or RT.

 

[Roadvirus]

They are not Russians. Systematically removing children from their home culture to be indoctrinated into another culture is genocide. And even if their parents were dead, they might well have other relatives alive (and we know several cases where the parents are alive still, the children have just been grabbed by the Russians).

Putzin looked at what China is doing in Xinjiang Province, thought it was neat & decided to give it a whirl in Ukraine.

 

[Rogue Valley]

Let's also remember that Donald Trump - that kid lover - has taken a convicted child sexual-abuser out of a Florida prison and transferred her to a white collar crime "country club" facility in Texas.

Ghislaine Maxwell's transfer to cushy prison camp is a 'travesty of justice,' ex-BOP official says

The move has sparked shock and outrage among current and former Bureau of Prison staffers.

www.nbcnews.com