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Still no GOP alternative

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"50 votes to repeal, defund or roll back the law since taking majority control of the U.S. House in 2011" and not a single vote to replace it.

And after 4+ years if you thought at least a proposal for the "replace" in "repeal-and-replace" with majority support in the GOP caucus was coming...just wait longer. They'll get to it, they swear!

House Republicans to Delay Obamacare Replacement Rollout
House Republicans are delaying the rollout of their alternative proposal to Obamacare, according to lawmakers and aides involved in the process.

The issue is one of “policy, trying to get it all together,” House Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy said when asked why a planned April unveiling was being pushed back.

The Republicans had said they would release the outlines of their proposal to replace President Barack Obama’s 2010 health-care law over the two-week congressional break later this month at town-hall meetings with constituents.

Instead, a Republican leadership aide said the rollout will occur at an unspecified time later this year. Republican leaders are set to meet this week to discuss their plans, McCarthy and Conference Chairman Cathy McMorris Rodgers said.

Maybe just forget about it at this point, guys.
 
"50 votes to repeal, defund or roll back the law since taking majority control of the U.S. House in 2011" and not a single vote to replace it.

I have no idea if they have one or not or what their plan is... But even if they do have ideas, it would be extremely (politically) dumb to bring it out now. Polling for Obamacare is low and the republicans coming out with anything will just allow the democrats to argue against that, rather then having to face the music about obamacare.
 
I have no idea if they have one or not or what their plan is... But even if they do have ideas, it would be extremely (politically) dumb to bring it out now. Polling for Obamacare is low and the republicans coming out with anything will just allow the democrats to argue against that, rather then having to face the music about obamacare.

No kidding, they're either going to start cranking the uninsurance rate up again, shifting back away from paying for value, and dialing down the benefits, or they're going to learn to love Obamacare (or whatever they want to call the same set of policies when they openly embrace them).

An outbreak of candor in the Obamacare debate
You’ll be startled to hear, via Bloomberg News, that House Republicans have once again put on hold their plans to release their alternative to Obamacare. Bloomberg quotes Republicans claiming they are in the midst of making process-y decisions about how to offer their alternative in legislative terms.

But it may also be that Republicans are running into the same old problem: There just isn’t any real policy space for an alternative that would meaningfully accomplish what the law accomplishes. Indeed, along these lines, one GOP aide was remarkably candid in an interview with Sahil Kapur:

One congressional GOP health aide, who was granted anonymity to speak candidly, said his party is as determined as ever to fight Obamacare, and will remain so as long as it exhibits failure. He said devising an alternative is fraught with the difficulty of crafting a new benefits structure that doesn’t look like the Affordable Care Act.

“If you want to say the further and further this gets down the road, the harder and harder it gets to repeal, that’s absolutely true,” the aide said. “As far as repeal and replace goes, the problem with replace is that if you really want people to have these new benefits, it looks a hell of a lot like the Affordable Care Act…To make something like that work, you have to move in the direction of the ACA. You have to have a participating mechanism, you have to have a mechanism to fund it, you have to have a mechanism to fix parts of the market.”​

You don’t say! This is just one anonymous GOP aide, but when you take these comments alongside what Paul Ryan admitted to the other day, we’re really getting somewhere. Ryan forthrightly claimed that, once Obamacare is repealed, its popular provisions shouldn’t be replaced, because so doing would be too costly.

I'm all for them continuing to do nothing beyond quietly acquiescing (if only via unrecorded voice votes). Why change now?
 
No kidding, they're either going to start cranking the uninsurance rate up again, shifting back away from paying for value, and dialing down the benefits, or they're going to learn to love Obamacare (or whatever they want to call the same set of policies when they openly embrace them).

An outbreak of candor in the Obamacare debate


I'm all for them continuing to do nothing beyond quietly acquiescing (if only via unrecorded voice votes). Why change now?

I Am too. At least until after the elections - assuming they win the senate. No reason for them to get in the way of an expected, resounding victory.
 
I have no idea if they have one or not or what their plan is... But even if they do have ideas, it would be extremely (politically) dumb to bring it out now. Polling for Obamacare is low and the republicans coming out with anything will just allow the democrats to argue against that, rather then having to face the music about obamacare.

If it's a good idea, then they should have no problem presenting it to the public. The sad part is YOU put your faith in Republicans. The sad part is the REAL low information voters are those that vote Rep or Dem.
 
I always assumed that the GOP plan was the default healthcare policy before Obamacare.
 
House Republicans need to keep the number of repeal ACA votes ahead of the number of months of private-sector job growth, but barely .
 
Maybe just forget about it at this point, guys.
McMorris Rodgers has become the point Woman on the GOP push-back on the "war on women".
Dems must be Professional in attacking her and the lack of a Plan, the lack of the GOP to have any agenda.

If I were Paul Ryan, I would point out that every time I put out a Budget plan, I get skinned alive by the TEAs and most DEMs.
I see this mentality as the reason why the GOP is delaying .
 
I see this mentality as the reason why the GOP is delaying .

And they will get murdered as the "do nothing" people by everyone else which is what has been happening. Not a good plan.
 
And they will get murdered as the "do nothing" people by everyone else which is what has been happening. Not a good plan.

The whole Congress has done nothing, and most people are stupidly going to vote to re-elect their lazy asses anyway.
 
The whole Congress has done nothing, and most people are stupidly going to vote to re-elect their lazy asses anyway.

My point exactly which is why is say the low information voter is that which votes Dem or Rep.
 
The whole Congress has done nothing, and most people are stupidly going to vote to re-elect their lazy asses anyway.

Well, you can set your watch by that. Everyone says "throw the bums out!" (what's Congress' approval rating, like 8%?), then when Election Day rolls around, they close the curtain and vote for the same guy. It becomes "Throw the bums out, except for our bum."
 
Well, you can set your watch by that. Everyone says "throw the bums out!" (what's Congress' approval rating, like 8%?), then when Election Day rolls around, they close the curtain and vote for the same guy. It becomes "Throw the bums out, except for our bum."

Pretty much. In a Democracy the people get the government they deserve.
 
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