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Could have been, but only if you require no evidence and would rather just use imagination.
And of course it could have been simply young male bravado. Not wanting to appear cowardly to a girl.
Could have been, but only if you require no evidence and would rather just use imagination.
Sure it will:lol:
Just make sure you are sitting down when the verdict is read. Don't want you fainting from disbelief :lol:
We have a good bit of time unaccounted for. Right at the critical moments.
Apparently out of character behavior on Ms part.
And a clear effort to deceive the court on Zs part per the bail thing.
So I'm not prepared to assume Zs narrative carries the weight of say DNA evidence.
I still think it was mostly an accident precipitated by Zs actions, not murder.
His steel dick and hollow point balls got him into a situation he wasn't prepared to deal with like a responsible adult. And somebody died.
We started this discussion trying to determine what T was doing rather than returning home - he could have been home at least 3 minutes prior to the enocounter. The only thing you have offer was a guess that T was hiding but didn't want to tell his GF. Sadly, that is just not supported by any evidence. W8 would not hesitate to say that T went into hiding, if she had known, and if T hid but didn't want her to know, she would have noticed that he was silent/whispering. There is no point to hiding then talking in a normal voice into a phone. It defies logic. So, let's try again.
What was T doing instead of returning home? You are certain that he was not engaging Z with the intent to attack him... I am positive that the evidence does not show a kid that was hiding for fear. Do you have anythign else?
You are presuming that M was aware that Z was out of the car and needed to whisper.
If he had reason to hide, he would have had reason to keep it quiet. Why hide then talk normally? Or why, after you know you are being followed, would you just assume you are safe and sit there (even though the girl said T indicated he was continuing home - just not running). It's like a 20-30 second walk for Trayvon to get home, yet 3 minutes later he ends up back near the T where Z is. I suspect you are ignoring a lot in order to maintain your opinion. It would seem fairly obvious T was not hiding for fear and was not on the way back home and according to Dee was not just sitting around...
I think you have the timeline wrong. And I'm too lazy to look it up.
Do you think he will be found not guilty?
If he had reason to hide, he would have had reason to keep it quiet. Why hide then talk normally? Or why, after you know you are being followed, would you just assume you are safe and sit there (even though the girl said T indicated he was continuing home - just not running). It's like a 20-30 second walk for Trayvon to get home, yet 3 minutes later he ends up back near the T where Z is. I suspect you are ignoring a lot in order to maintain your opinion. It would seem fairly obvious T was not hiding for fear and was not on the way back home and according to Dee was not just sitting around...
I believe he will be found guilty, of Murder 2 if not definitely manslaughter.
LOL so much misinformation.
NEN Call and Trayvon's Walk - YouTube
Did any Zimmer-supporter ever walk the path? Oh right of course not, it would blow holes in Zimmer's fabricated story:lamo
Dude, I posted a link to the video showing T's timeline. I was off on the 20-30 seconds, but I provided the corrected info in a later post (post #108 above). The fact remains, T could have been home while Z was still on teh call with NEN and approximately 3 minutes prior to the confrontation - yet he ends up near the T.
Not by much, if at all
And? Zimmerman could have been back to his vehicle.
Neither one was breaking the law by being at the T. Moot point.
That does not look like a correction:lol:
I hope so, but remember it's florida, casey anthony turf.
I'm still not convinced that it started at the t. I think Z was down between the buildings when they came together.
And Ds testimony would be fragmentary at best, even if it wasn't possibly contaminated by exposure to Zs story.
She couldn't SEE what was happening. She had never been there.
I agreed with the Casey Anthony verdict. The prosecutors overcharged her. They set themselves up to fail.
Two things that are different in this case that will ensure the prosecution will succeed:
1. M2/manslaughter charges are appropriate, Zimmerman (& Casey Anthony at least evidence that was submitted-wise) did not plan to kill. Or there is/was no evidence available to show premeditated murder.
2. Zimmerman yapping to everyone who will listen, from the SPD to Hannity. I do not recall Casey Anthony going on Hannity:lol:
And that would be because he was hiding, not out of fear, but in an effort to lay in wait.And evidence you have supporting that?
T was allegedly discussing with her what was occuring. I discount a lot of her testimony, as i've already indicated, but I do believe that it is clear from her testimony that he was not hiding. SHe would not have hesitated to bring that up, unless there was a reason outside the normal for his hiding.
If you think they are comparatively equal, you are mistaken.Why is it that y'all are.so hung up on how long it would have taken M to get home and don't care at all about how long it took Z to get back halfway back to his truck?
It is accounted for.We have a good bit of time unaccounted for. Right at the critical moments.
No evidence supports such a statement.Apparently out of character behavior on Ms part.
You have no evidence of such.And a clear effort to deceive the court on Zs part per the bail thing.
Somebody died because they attacked someone.His steel dick and hollow point balls got him into a situation he wasn't prepared to deal with like a responsible adult. And somebody died.
It isn't moot.And? Zimmerman could have been back to his vehicle.
Neither one was breaking the law by being at the T. Moot point.
For who? You?It's hard to believe a scuffle would travel a far.
As Trayvon wasn't just walking home with a watermelon drink and skittles but involved in suspicious activity and in an unjustified attack on him.I wonder what Zimmerman thought and how he felt, when he learned Trayvon did belong in his neighborhood and was just walking home with candy and tea.
I wonder what Zimmerman thought and how he felt, when he learned Trayvon did belong in his neighborhood and was just walking home with candy and tea.
Trayvon's cellphone: O'Mara: State has unlocked trove of info from Trayvon's cellphone - Orlando Sentinel
If Trayvon's movement could be tracked that night leading up to the shot fired by Zimmerman that killed him, then O'mara shouldn't worry a thing about it being so hard that required "hundreds of more hours of work for defense attorneys" if Zimmerman is telling the truth, should it?
So, all these excuses to delay the trial after spending all these $300,000 of donation money and more pouring in for expert witness expense, I mean, didn't Bill Lee and Serino stood by Zimmerman and claimed all evidence supported Zimmerman's account of what happened that night? If that's so, why the need for asking to delay the stand your ground trial? Didn't Bill Lee let Zimmerman walk based on stand your ground law?
1. Proof?OMara claims they spent 200 hours getting rid of judge Lester.
Correction, the better the financial outcome of Z's attorney.The longer it takes, the better outcome for Z
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