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I'm suprised giving a speech at a private event has to be "ok'd" by the state department in the first place... And if you're point is that he spoke at events in which a Banking company (Barclays) broke the law....Ummmm you do know its BANKING we are talking about?
You really wanna go down that path? Mitt Romeny is collecting a fat check from them giving speeches to the same group (Barclays). And if you whole beef is that they gave money to Clinton, you might wanna check out their PAC funds, and who they gave $$$ to... https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/lookup2.php?strID=C00448852&cycle=2014
But hey if your point is that we need to get money out of politics and severly restrict it and its influence! Then, hell yea! Im with you.
But if your point is "look! Hillary bad! Bad!" meh, I agree that I I'm not Clinton fan, but I'm not falling for this partisan argument.
Thats a politician.
No matter how you describe it, its still a politician.
Why does it matter? Was Bill Clinton the Secretary of State or something?
Politician=/=Corruption
I can't figure out what the corrupt part is. He's a private citizen speaking at a private event. Where's the conflict of interest?
Politician=/=Corruption
Mornin HB :2wave: they aren't up on whats ethical despite the AP talking about an ethics problem and the conflict of interest.
Its why you will see them talk about how they don't see anything wrong with what was being done. They tend to skip over what the AP stated and their emphasis.
No you're wrong, but not just wrong, you're dishonest, such is your patronising bs, and hatred of our president. I can't get over that.
Yeah. I understand that to the left here nothing unusual has happened. Speaks volumes.
Never fear. If you don't look, you won't see anything.
Barclay did "business" with the US? What kind of "business"? Paying a fine?Using the power of your political position to stuff your pockets with money from companies that do business with your office is corruption,
Oh it leads to corruption, but the thing is its essentially legal corruption.however. Do you think money in politics leads to corruption or is that just politics? You can't have it both ways.
So when the campaign season is in full swing can I expect that whenever a Republican is shown to be unethical you will rush in to point out that they are just politicians?
Yeah, the left's argument that all politicians are corrupt combined with their demand for more government control seems, I don't know... crazy?
I don't think Mitt Romney's wife is Secretary of State.
I would ask conservatives who raise objections here this question:
Under what circumstances should the state department have said no to a private citizen speaking at a private event, and how many of these speeches meet that criteria?
GEEZUZ! FINALLY someone said it. 24 freakin' comments in. I was wondering if there was anyone to speak directly to the point.
Politician =/= statesman necessarily, either. When a person in a position that's defined by placing the interests of the country above partisan politics uses that position for political gain, then the position has been corrupted by the person occupying it.
Ann Romney has ties to Hillary, though. They know each other's names and stuff. So who knows what could've transpired? We'll never know the true depth of the Romney's corruption. Harry Reid pretty much nailed it.
I agree with the question. I would also say that frankly...its not all that out of the realm of possibility that ANY former US president might be given fast track treatment by the State Department and that being married to the Sec of State should have a few perks.
The only level of concern I have remains with who was signing the paychecks. These were people that were a-known to be sanctioned for improper dealings with Iran and b-People with whom the foundation was getting direct cash contributions from AND that had business dealings that appear to have been facilitated by the state department.
Or not. Let the muck continue. Its going to be a long year and a half.
Never fear. If you don't look, you won't see anything.
Almost all aspiring politicians have used various positions for personal gain, be it a resume filler, or a way to work their way up the ladder of power.
Are you saying all politicians have no ethics?
Depends on the said actions of said aspiring politician, and ones views on ethics.
So not all.....correct?
It would depend on ones view of ethics and one could also argue that politics in and of istelf is inherently unethical.
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