Sorry folks, MAGA is sticking with Trump.

[TangoNoCash]

Gotta love cult45/47 trying to claim it sounds nothing like their dear leader.

The reality is it sounds *exactly* like him.

We all heard the Hollywood Access tape in 2005 a few years after, we all heard how Trump *sounds*as a grown man.

How does someone sound who cheated on his third, with not only a pornstar, but carried on an almost year long affair with Karen McDougal, while his wife was home with his newborn?

They should be MEGA.

Make Excuses Great Again

 

[Airyaman]

MAGA sticking with Trump is not the flex you think it is.

What kind of flex is it supposed to be? I'm just saying if anyone thought this would be what finally breaks the spell, it isn't.

 

[gbg3]

and pushing conspiracy theories by Trump supporters tends to help Trump because his base believes many of the CT's.

Here is your conspiracy theory thread and it's quickly turned into quite the thread. And it wasn't started (I'll note, started in comically dramatic fashion) by any Trump supporter.

Thread 'Trump Responds After Report Reveals His Birthday Letter to Jeffrey Epstein'

Jul 17, 2025

This will ratchet up the heat!

President Donald Trump threatened to sue the Wall Street Journal over a story it published Thursday saying he sent a letter to the disgraced financier and sex offender Jeffrey Epstein on Epstein's 50th birthday.

The letter bearing Trump's name, reviewed by the Journal, is said to feature several lines of typewritten text surrounded by the outline of a naked woman, sketched in marker.

The illustration also includes two small arcs representing breasts, with Trump's signature written below the waist and resembling pubic hair, the report said...

• Allan
• Replies: 852
• Forum: Breaking News

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[Callen]

There is one heck of a huge segment of the population the new Medicaid requirements don't even touch. I think this is a typical issue Dems run into with their campaigns. They put all their eggs in voter baskets too small, and they penalize or ignore the average working person or family in the process - by advocating too much for a society overloaded with handouts and free stuff. And in that process, personal responsibility is also diminished or even penalized.

The difference between Dems and Republicans is Dems care about their fellow Americans even if the issue doesn't touch them directly. Additionally, the issue of rural hospital closings and impacts on emergency rooms in general touch everyone.

 

[mike2810]

Here is your conspiracy theory thread and it's quickly turned into quite the thread. And it wasn't started (I'll note, started in comically dramatic fashion) by any Trump supporter.

Thread 'Trump Responds After Report Reveals His Birthday Letter to Jeffrey Epstein'

Jul 17, 2025

This will ratchet up the heat!

President Donald Trump threatened to sue the Wall Street Journal over a story it published Thursday saying he sent a letter to the disgraced financier and sex offender Jeffrey Epstein on Epstein's 50th birthday.

The letter bearing Trump's name, reviewed by the Journal, is said to feature several lines of typewritten text surrounded by the outline of a naked woman, sketched in marker.

The illustration also includes two small arcs representing breasts, with Trump's signature written below the waist and resembling pubic hair, the report said...

• Allan
• Replies: 852
• Forum: Breaking News

• 

thanks, I am aware of that thread.

my point still stands.

 

[Visbek]

First, it will be on Medicaid recipients only - which will not include working people (and their families) on various plans available to them through their jobs.

....except that those Working People will need to prove to the government, every six months, that they are still working. And a lot of those people who aren't working are taking care of family members.

We already know from states establishing work requirements that a significant percentage of working people wind up losing coverage because of the onerous requirements. Work requirements for safety nets also do not encourage more people to work. All it does is kick eligible people off the rolls.

‘The first time didn't work’: Georgia and Arkansas scale back Medicaid work requirements | Arkansas Advocate

The Georgia and Arkansas work requirement proposals reveal the disconnect between rhetoric and the realities of running them.

arkansasadvocate.com

In addition, the bill closed a loophole that lets the states reclaim additional federal funds. This was only partially restored by spending $10 billion for 5 years propping up rural hospitals.

Another problem is that rural hospitals will have fewer patients, which will force many of them to close, which is going to make it even more difficult for tens of millions of rural residents to get care.

As an example, I'm now a senior and I've never been on Medicaid for my entire life.

Oh. Well if YOU haven't been on Medicare, then who gives a f*** about those who are?

Back in reality: Medicaid covers 20% of Americans. At least 7 million are over 65. And since states are losing Medicaid funds, whose needs won't be met?

There is one heck of a huge segment of the population the new Medicaid requirements don't even touch.

It's going to directly kick around 10 MILLION people off of Medicaid, and again have lots of indirect effects such as hospital closures and state shortfalls.

There's a reason why these impacts were delayed until December 2026. Do you know it?

I think this is a typical issue Dems run into with their campaigns.

Yes, it's so weird how telling the truth doesn't change the minds of rank partisans.

 

[Trumpetman]

One of the most interesting things about the Epstein story in the last 24 hours is it's suddenly all and only about Trump. Not one other person is being discussed. Supposedly this odd letter, which I'd agree with Charlie Kirk, sounds nothing at all like Trump - is suddenly 100% of the Epstein case. There is supposedly a book of letters but we're hearing of only one.

And Trump is furious. The left on this forum is assuming Trump being furious indicates guilt. I suppose it could - but this reminds me so much of the dossier and Trump's furious reaction to that. And we know how furious Trump was when he claimed he was being spied on. I could keep going but I think I've made that point.

It's going to be interesting over the next few weeks. For one thing, we know the Biden administration kept all the supposed files quiet and didn't even try to hurt or destroy Trump with them - which is odd because now we know everything which was in those files (or added to those files during that administration) - was related to Donald Trump (ahem). That's it folks - the Biden administration didn't remove anything, add anything, and no one else was involved. Just Trump, and Biden wanted to be sure Trump was protected.

It's all so logical now.

You've made a great point that I've often mentioned in discussions.

Biden DOJ had all the Epstein stuff for four years. You can bet your ass that if there were Trump stuff in it they would have dropped it. Same for the Obama years.

 

[Trumpetman]

Is it bad that he's a pedophile?

Is it bad that you want us to believe that Joe Biden had this info for four years and Obama had it for eight and never dropped it?

 

[ElChupacabra]

One of the most interesting things about the Epstein story in the last 24 hours is it's suddenly all and only about Trump. Not one other person is being discussed. Supposedly this odd letter, which I'd agree with Charlie Kirk, sounds nothing at all like Trump - is suddenly 100% of the Epstein case. There is supposedly a book of letters but we're hearing of only one.

And Trump is furious. The left on this forum is assuming Trump being furious indicates guilt. I suppose it could - but this reminds me so much of the dossier and Trump's furious reaction to that. And we know how furious Trump was when he claimed he was being spied on. I could keep going but I think I've made that point.

It's going to be interesting over the next few weeks. For one thing, we know the Biden administration kept all the supposed files quiet and didn't even try to hurt or destroy Trump with them - which is odd because now we know everything which was in those files (or added to those files during that administration) - was related to Donald Trump (ahem). That's it folks - the Biden administration didn't remove anything, add anything, and no one else was involved. Just Trump, and Biden wanted to be sure Trump was protected.

It's all so logical now.

Without knowing the details, it's hard to know what the motivations were for the former administration, but one point that immediately becomes problematic are lawsuits by any people in those documents since it would be damaging despite the information likely not being enough to criminally try any of them. The problem here is one of Trump's own making because he said he would release the information, and the conspiratorial nutters he catered to were expecting him to do it. Now that he's backed away from it, that section of his base is calling him out on it.

 

[Hamish Howl]

Is it bad that he's a pedophile?

Not if you're MAGA, which is apparently the new NAMBLA.

 

[Callen]

Without knowing the details, it's hard to know what the motivations were for the former administration, but one point that immediately becomes problematic are lawsuits by any people in those documents since it would be damaging despite the information likely not being enough to criminally try any of them. The problem here is one of Trump's own making because he said he would release the information, and the conspiratorial nutters he catered to were expecting him to do it. Now that he's backed away from it, that section of his base is calling him out on it.

It's interesting how this conspiracy theory was created by Trumpers who claimed there was important information being withheld from the American people and it is those very same people who are now saying there is no there, there. Were they lying then or are they lying now? One way or another they lied. That's the issue, but as we can see loyal Trumpers are now trying to make this a Dem conspiracy theory. More evidence of how little independent thinking they do. Even if Trump is implicated in the files they won't care because....policy.

 

[Callen]

We have a single letter, supposedly from Trump (which sounds nothing at all like Trump) out of a book supposedly full of letters. Now the entire, many years long, Epstein story - is all centered on just Trump. And Biden and his administration, out of the goodness of their hearts, I guess decided to protect Trump. LOL!

There is a lot more than that. Trump and Epstien were buddies for years. Trump had/has a reputation for infidelity and by his own admission, what most would consider inappropriate sexual activities. You can chose to deny that but it is a matter of public record. It is more than reasonable to think that Trump enjoyed sexual activities while with Epstein on his island, or wherever, and as such may have had his name end up in the files. However, as I have said several times on this forum, I do not believe any of it reached a level where criminal prosecution would be warranted. Nonetheless it would be embarrassing. If there were prosecutable evidence in those files the Trump DOJ would have dumped it long before the files became the property of the Biden DOJ. Remember all this happened when Trump was President , not Biden.

 

[ElChupacabra]

It's interesting how this conspiracy theory was created by Trumpers who claimed there was important information being withheld from the American people and it is those very same people who are now saying there is no there, there. Were they lying then or are they lying now? One way or another they lied. That's the issue, but as we can see loyal Trumpers are now trying to make this a Dem conspiracy theory. More evidence of how little independent thinking they do. Even if Trump is implicated in the files they won't care because....policy.

This whole Epstein files business is a clown show Trump made on his own because he assumed he could control his supporters, and that still may prove out true in this age of short attention span theater. For right now though, he's built quite the Chinese finger trap for himself.

 

[ElChupacabra]

There is a lot more than that. Trump and Epstien were buddies for years. Trump had/has a reputation for infidelity and by his own admission, what most would consider inappropriate sexual activities. You can chose to deny that but it is a matter of public record. It is more than reasonable to think that Trump enjoyed sexual activities while with Epstein on his island, or wherever, and as such may have had his name end up in the files. However, as I have said several times on this forum, I do not believe any of it reached a level where criminal prosecution would be warranted. Nonetheless it would be embarrassing. If there were prosecutable evidence in those files the Trump DOJ would have dumped it long before the files became the property of the Biden DOJ. Remember all this happened when Trump was President , not Biden.

It's beyond just admission though, since us NYers who remember how he humiliated Ivana Trump publicly during his affair with Marla Maples by taking Maples to public events so he could be photographed with her and then making disparaging remarks about Ivana even though they were still married. He was an absolute scumbag about the whole thing.

 

[element94]

You're claiming most Republicans are probably pedophile rapists? Really?

After electing a criminal whose crimes were against laws of the United States for the first time in U.S. history, it can't be ruled out. I make an exception for you. Those that still support him support child rape at least. My eyes are open, and I'm not in denial.

 

[Metric Mouse]

and pushing conspiracy theories by Trump supporters tends to help Trump because his base believes many of the CT's.

Right?

Democrats will keep doing so, however. No idea why.