Solar and wind outpacing coal

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Government have a long history of supporting new technologies including fossil fuel and nuclear.

Nuclear, Fossil Fuels Have Dominated Federal Energy R&D Spending

Nuclear energy has been the recipient of almost half of the federal government's energy research and development spending since 1948, according to a new assessment from the Congressional Research Service. Fossil fuels come in second.

www.forbes.com

While both fossil fuel companies and car companies have lobbied against support for electric cars. So that Western car companies are now lagging behind Chinese manufactures.

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

BYD's new EV, starting at less than $10,000, is stoking fear across the industry

Leading EV maker BYD shook the industry after unveiling the new Seagull (Dolphin Mini), with starting prices as low as...

electrek.co

What is wrong with just letting the technology compete on equal footing?

 

[Volunteer]

What is wrong with just letting the technology compete on equal footing?

That's the solution. But big-monied interests run P.R. media buys and sway (bribe) Congress.

 

[Bergslagstroll]

What is wrong with just letting the technology compete on equal footing?

New technologies are often very expensive. There government support can lead to innovation and economies of scale. So that those new technologies becomes better and cheaper than the old technologies. There investments into renewable, batteries and other green technologies have really paid off.

Solar & Wind Cheaper & Cheaper — New Reports - CleanTechnica

Why are solar power and wind power dominating new power installations? Because they’re cheaper. The problem with some big purchases people make, and plenty of little purchases, is we look at the upfront cost of something instead of the long-term, lifetime cost. The good thing about purchases of...

cleantechnica.com

‘Game changers’: Battery costs drop by 90% in 15 years

To hit our 2030 energy goals, global storage capacity needs to increase sixfold. Batteries will do most of the heavy lifting.

www.euronews.com

While after over half a century of Western intervention in the Middle East, to secure the flow of cheap oil, ruthless dictatorships still control and profits from global fossil fuel sales. While also spending enormous amounts of money on influence Western politicians.

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/us-senate-committee-probes-18-oil-producers-price-collusion-with-opec-2024-06-27/

Before Giving Billions to Jared Kushner, Saudi Investment Fund Had Big Doubts (Published 2022)

Before committing $2 billion to Mr. Kushner’s fledgling firm, officials at a fund led by the Saudi crown prince questioned taking such a big risk.

www.nytimes.com

 

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New technologies are often very expensive. There government support can lead to innovation and economies of scale. So that those new technologies becomes better and cheaper than the old technologies. There investments into renewable, batteries and other green technologies have really paid off.

Solar & Wind Cheaper & Cheaper — New Reports - CleanTechnica

Why are solar power and wind power dominating new power installations? Because they’re cheaper. The problem with some big purchases people make, and plenty of little purchases, is we look at the upfront cost of something instead of the long-term, lifetime cost. The good thing about purchases of...

cleantechnica.com

‘Game changers’: Battery costs drop by 90% in 15 years

To hit our 2030 energy goals, global storage capacity needs to increase sixfold. Batteries will do most of the heavy lifting.

www.euronews.com

While after over half a century of Western intervention in the Middle East, to secure the flow of cheap oil, ruthless dictatorships still control and profits from global fossil fuel sales. While also spending enormous amounts of money on influence Western politicians.

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/us-senate-committee-probes-18-oil-producers-price-collusion-with-opec-2024-06-27/

Before Giving Billions to Jared Kushner, Saudi Investment Fund Had Big Doubts (Published 2022)

Before committing $2 billion to Mr. Kushner’s fledgling firm, officials at a fund led by the Saudi crown prince questioned taking such a big risk.

www.nytimes.com

Except that a superior technology would succeed on its own merits like flat screen televisions.
Government promotion of a technology before market selection can delay the best solution moving forward!

 

[Bergslagstroll]

Except that a superior technology would succeed on its own merits like flat screen televisions.
Government promotion of a technology before market selection can delay the best solution moving forward!

As I showed nuclear and fossil fuel have also gotten government support. There also no private insurance would want or would be able to cover the full cost of a nuclear accident. With fossil fuel you also have the massive unpaid social and environmental cost.

New report: extreme weather events cost economy $2 trillion over the last decade - ICC - International Chamber of Commerce

A new report estimates that climate-related extreme weather events have cost the global economy more than $2 trillion over the past decade.

iccwbo.org

Support to renewable energy have also paid of and made those technologies globally competitive.

World’s electricity supply close to ‘peak emissions’ due to growth of wind and solar - Carbon Brief

Carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions from the global power sector grew just 0.2% in the first...

www.carbonbrief.org

 

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As I showed nuclear and fossil fuel have also gotten government support. There also no private insurance would want or would be able to cover the full cost of a nuclear accident. With fossil fuel you also have the massive unpaid social and environmental cost.

New report: extreme weather events cost economy $2 trillion over the last decade - ICC - International Chamber of Commerce

A new report estimates that climate-related extreme weather events have cost the global economy more than $2 trillion over the past decade.

iccwbo.org

Support to renewable energy have also paid of and made those technologies globally competitive.

World’s electricity supply close to ‘peak emissions’ due to growth of wind and solar - Carbon Brief

Carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions from the global power sector grew just 0.2% in the first...

www.carbonbrief.org

Actually you cannot prove any of the unpaid social costs, there are some environmental losses in any activity,
including battery electric cars.

 

[Bergslagstroll]

Actually you cannot prove any of the unpaid social costs, there are some environmental losses in any activity,
including battery electric cars.

The evidence for man made global warming is overwhelming. While also the enormous cost of toxic air pollution from fossil fuels.

Evidence - NASA Science

Earth's climate has changed throughout history. Just in the last 800,000 years, there have been eight cycles of ice ages and warmer periods, with the end of

science.nasa.gov

Fossil Fuel Subsidies Surged to Record $7 Trillion

Scaling back subsidies would reduce air pollution, generate revenue, and make a major contribution to slowing climate change

www.imf.org

 

[Peter]

The UK now produces zero electricity from coal.
The last coal station shut down this year and won't ever be turned back on.

 

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The evidence for man made global warming is overwhelming. While also the enormous cost of toxic air pollution from fossil fuels.

Evidence - NASA Science

Earth's climate has changed throughout history. Just in the last 800,000 years, there have been eight cycles of ice ages and warmer periods, with the end of

science.nasa.gov

Fossil Fuel Subsidies Surged to Record $7 Trillion

Scaling back subsidies would reduce air pollution, generate revenue, and make a major contribution to slowing climate change

www.imf.org

So what warming would have happened anyway if Humans had not been present?

 

[Lord of Planar]

The evidence for man made global warming is overwhelming. While also the enormous cost of toxic air pollution from fossil fuels.

Evidence - NASA Science

Earth's climate has changed throughout history. Just in the last 800,000 years, there have been eight cycles of ice ages and warmer periods, with the end of

science.nasa.gov

Fossil Fuel Subsidies Surged to Record $7 Trillion

Scaling back subsidies would reduce air pollution, generate revenue, and make a major contribution to slowing climate change

www.imf.org

Two biased choices to link.

 

[Lord of Planar]

The UK now produces zero electricity from coal.
The last coal station shut down this year and won't ever be turned back on.

That's a good thing.

 

[Bergslagstroll]

So what warming would have happened anyway if Humans had not been present?

The present warming is caused by human emissions of CO2. From my previous link.

"The current warming trend is different because it is clearly the result of human activities since the mid-1800s, and is proceeding at a rate not seen over many recent millennia.1 It is undeniable that human activities have produced the atmospheric gases that have trapped more of the Sun’s energy in the Earth system. This extra energy has warmed the atmosphere, ocean, and land, and widespread and rapid changes in the atmosphere, ocean, cryosphere, and biosphere have occurred...

Ice cores drawn from Greenland, Antarctica, and tropical mountain glaciers show that Earth’s climate responds to changes in greenhouse gas levels. Ancient evidence can also be found in tree rings, ocean sediments, coral reefs, and layers of sedimentary rocks. This ancient, or paleoclimate, evidence reveals that current warming is occurring roughly 10 times faster than the average rate of warming after an ice age. Carbon dioxide from human activities is increasing about 250 times faster than it did from natural sources after the last Ice Age.3"

 

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The present warming is caused by human emissions of CO2. From my previous link.

"The current warming trend is different because it is clearly the result of human activities since the mid-1800s, and is proceeding at a rate not seen over many recent millennia.1 It is undeniable that human activities have produced the atmospheric gases that have trapped more of the Sun’s energy in the Earth system. This extra energy has warmed the atmosphere, ocean, and land, and widespread and rapid changes in the atmosphere, ocean, cryosphere, and biosphere have occurred...

Ice cores drawn from Greenland, Antarctica, and tropical mountain glaciers show that Earth’s climate responds to changes in greenhouse gas levels. Ancient evidence can also be found in tree rings, ocean sediments, coral reefs, and layers of sedimentary rocks. This ancient, or paleoclimate, evidence reveals that current warming is occurring roughly 10 times faster than the average rate of warming after an ice age. Carbon dioxide from human activities is increasing about 250 times faster than it did from natural sources after the last Ice Age.3"

I see you choose not to answer the question!