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Socialized medicine at its finest, forced abortion in the UK

EMNofSeattle

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Apparently a British judge is ordering a Nigerian catholic woman to have an abortion because of alleged mental disability. Make no mistake, the baby murder lobby has no limits, and seeing how the United Kingdom has no written constitution and no civil liberties to speak of, this is not surprising

The United States should impose economic sanctions against the UK and cancel trade deals, if I were Trump this is what I would do

UK court orders forced abortion for disabled Catholic, Nigerian woman
 
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Wow, so taking the child and putting it in foster care is more traumatizing than the government killing your child? This is a messed up story all around given that it seems the girl is mentally handicapped (not sure if that is the politically correct term anymore) and shouldn't be pregnant in the first place, but to go against the wishes of both the woman and her mother and kill the child is ridiculous.
 
Assuming this is true, which I doubt, given I can't find any non-ridiculous source for it - this would be awful, and obviously against what most people are okay with, as this removes "choice", a keyword in "pro-choice".
 
This has nothing to do with socialised medicine and a lot to do with courts acting in parentis as a guardian.

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I will wait for confirmation on this story but I either expect that there is a lot more to it or that it is wrong.

If it is what it appears to be at face value then there will be big trouble.
 
The most obvious omission is that the person the abortion is "being forced upon" lacks the mental capacity to choose. It follows that to become pregnant she was raped. She's pregnant but is unaware of the implications of that. As the judge said , once she has a tangible baby, then she could be distressed as in someone takes away her favourite new doll. A minor "operation" will soon be forgotten
Is forcing a raped mentally handicapped woman to carry a rapist's baby to term a moral decision?
 
Well, it clearly stands against any pro-choice stance.

Forced abortion is not choice.


In terms of the suggestion that US impose sanctions on the UK...we are bffs with countries with ongoing human rights violations...why this situation stand above others?
 

As stated above, she was probably raped since she apparently lacks the mental faculties to consent to sex. So, it's not really a "forced" abortion.
 

Then you can remove the baby and place the baby for adoption.

It doesn’t seem to my like the carrying of the baby is forced if a judge has to order a termination.
 
EMNofSeattle said:
Then you can remove the baby and place the baby for adoption.

It doesn’t seem to my like the carrying of the baby is forced if a judge has to order a termination.
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Lacking mental competence as she does she was raped. Is it morally right to allow mentally handicapped people to incubate rapists babies for adoption?
 

Exactly pro choice allows the woman or her legal guardian to make the decision.

That is one reason I am opposed to allowing the government to ban abortions.
Once you allow a government to ban abortions the government could turn around and force an abortion on a woman.
We saw that in China and now we are seeing it in the United Kingdom.
 
Manc Skipper said:
Lacking mental competence as she does she was raped. Is it morally right to allow mentally handicapped people to incubate rapists babies for adoption?
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Yes, because babies should not be given the death penalty for what the father did.
 
There's a big chance that the baby will also have some kind of disorder, which means we citizens will likely have to pay for it for the rest of our lives, or do you think that these mentally ill people are a contribution to our society?
 
calamity said:
As stated above, she was probably raped since she apparently lacks the mental faculties to consent to sex. So, it's not really a "forced" abortion.
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But she is saying she wants to keep it so I do have a tough time with the abortion. But from what I gather she may not be able to care for it and her mother may have issues as well .Do they know who the father is.....was it another mentally disabled ?
 
marinusf said:
There's a big chance that the baby will also have some kind of disorder, which means we citizens will likely have to pay for it for the rest of our lives, or do you think that these mentally ill people are a contribution to our society?
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Spoken like a true Socialist. Should we gas those that we deem as not having a contribution to our society?
 
EMNofSeattle said:
Then you can remove the baby and place the baby for adoption.

It doesn’t seem to my like the carrying of the baby is forced if a judge has to order a termination.
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Nap said:
Spoken like a true Socialist. Should we gas those that we deem as not having a contribution to our society?
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I'm going to assume you are both 100% okay with us raising taxes to provide for these children, then?
 
marinusf said:
There's a big chance that the baby will also have some kind of disorder, which means we citizens will likely have to pay for it for the rest of our lives, or do you think that these mentally ill people are a contribution to our society?
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So, you are a eugenicist.
 

Yeah, you can just hammer away at trade whenever you have a tantrum, and nothing bad ever happens.
 

They are not "forcing" her to carry the baby to term. That was her choice and is a choice supported by her mother and social worker. They are not allowing that choice because, as good quality Socialists, they know what's best for everyone and will impose their will as they see fit!
 
marinusf said:
There's a big chance that the baby will also have some kind of disorder, which means we citizens will likely have to pay for it for the rest of our lives, or do you think that these mentally ill people are a contribution to our society?
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That's the other lovely thing about Socialists, eventually they get around to deciding who and what is a burden upon them and how it's all really for the best that only polite, obedient little blonde babies be bred.
 
Isn't it thoughtful how generous men are about telling women to solve the problem of unwanted pregnancy by just carrying it to term. Produce a child, send it off to be adopted. Problem solved. Easy-peasy. And no man has suffered a single medical, health, emotional or philosophical problem.
 
nekrodev said:
Assuming this is true, which I doubt, given I can't find any non-ridiculous source for it - this would be awful, and obviously against what most people are okay with, as this removes "choice", a keyword in "pro-choice".
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Ditto. The only sources I can find are overtly Catholic. Having grown up in the UK I know this would have made mainstream news, however not even a tabloid source. So I doubt this story, if it even exists, is really as it's being presented.

The source quoted is pretty pathetic. In the right hand column you've got a very healthy looking actor pretending to be a priest just died of cancer. WTF? Who can take this seriously?
 
What the **** does any of this have to do with socialized medicine? Why don't you educate yourself on a topic before spouting your usual moronic drivel?
 
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