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You know?Yeah, it will be nice not having some super entitled, easily hurt group of people trying to get everything pulled off the air and shit like that over every little thing. It will be nice if we find our collective sense of humor again.
I think this latest thing with Chappelle has backfired on the Cancel Culture group, perhaps the turn around is neigh.
Hopefully, and the Cancel Culture goes both ways. Kaepernick was cancelled for kneeling and that was pretty much bullshit too. I firmly believe he'd still be playing if not for that. He wasn't elite, but he was good enough for a position on a team.Failed miserably. And it failed when they attacked that one guy by destroying his sign, claiming he had a weapon and then started pushing him.
Great way to lose support for one's cause: attacking someone on the opposing side for no reason.
But it was always inevitable that they'd fall. People eventually lose their patience, and then everything these poor Pajama Boy pansy types would go on to do afterwards would be considered an annoyance and people will finally say "Oh just shut the **** up already".
All he has to do is stop attacking trans people and in his specials and apologize for having done it in the first place.
So...this 'black' person who is against AA is racist in your opinion?Lil bit yeah, at the very least they don't really understand the problem on a high level and have a hard time acknowledging their own privilege. Turns out MIT seems to agree with me, and I've heard there's a lot of smart people there.
Perhaps the reason that you don't think cancel culture exists is because you are part of the problem and you are exactly the type of person we are talking about.
This rising tide of illiberalism, puritanism, and anti-intellectualism in America's public sphere is a real problem, because it becomes much harder to innovate in societies that do not value challenging the conventional wisdom.
Yeah.Hopefully, and the Cancel Culture goes both ways. Kaepernick was cancelled for kneeling and that was pretty much bullshit too. I firmly believe he'd still be playing if not for that. He wasn't elite, but he was good enough for a position on a team.
You and @Ikari should really decide if you are for or against protests...Yeah.
That Kaepernick thing was hideous.
Just because the guy kneeled?
Whoopie!!!
Good comedians know that you should always punch up, never down. If you're laughing at those who attack the weak and defenseless then you're the one who has a bad sense of humor.Yeah, it will be nice not having some super entitled, easily hurt group of people trying to get everything pulled off the air and shit like that over every little thing. It will be nice if we find our collective sense of humor again.
Well Chappelle is considered one of the best comedians, so I suppose he wasn't punching down.Good comedians know that you should always punch up, never down. If you're laughing at those who attack the weak and defenseless then you're the one who has a bad sense of humor.
This person doesn't appear to be against affirmative action at all, he's looking for ways to improve it. He's very clearly acknowledging that the problem exists and it needs a solution similar to it.So...this 'black' person who is against AA is racist in your opinion?
Yes or no, please?
Well... I looked it up and apparently quotas are now illegal anyway.This person doesn't appear to be against affirmative action at all, he's looking for ways to improve it. He's very clearly acknowledging that the problem exists and it needs a solution similar to it.
How the heck would you know what 'good Comedians' should or should not do?Good comedians know that you should always punch up, never down. If you're laughing at those who attack the weak and defenseless then you're the one who has a bad sense of humor.
Seems a little bit yeah. At the very least he's an idiot who doesn't understand the problem.Is/was he racist?
Yeah, I'd say he's definatly a bit racist and 100% a moron.Or this black man?
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Is/was he racist?
So...if a black man/woman is against Affirmative Action?Seems a little bit yeah. At the very least he's an idiot who doesn't understand the problem.
Yeah, I'd say he's definatly a bit racist and 100% a moron.
Why should trans people be immune to ridicule by Chappelle? They need to man up and take it in stride.
Actually yeah, I do have a much better sense of humor than most, but if you don't believe me try listening to good comedians...How the heck would you know what 'good Comedians' should or should not do?
Are you a 'good comedian'?
But the last Dave Chappell special was not cancelled. It is OK to protest what you don't like, but I say if you don't like it, don't watch. I remember when a group from the NAACP protested "The Color Purple" which is now considered one of the best movies Steven Spilberg ever produced. It is a classic.It's not just from right wing sources.
Cancel Culture Is Ideological, Not Generational
Contrary to popular belief, younger Americans are just as likely as their older counterparts to view cancel culture as a net negative.www.aei.org
Anyone who saw the last Dave Chappell special and then the ludicrous overreaction afterwards AND who has a decent amount of common sense?
Could EASILY see that Cancel Culture has gone WAY too far.
It's one thing to say: 'I don't like what you said...I am ignoring you.'
And saying: 'I don't like what you said. I want to stop anyone from ever hearing you say that.'
That is censorship and attacking freedom of speech...100%.
And Americans are finally wising up to it.
Why do you keep minimizing blackballing like this - every - single - time? Kevin Hart should not have to lose this very well paying opportunity because people like you cannot seem to handle it that this country, people should not have to choose between remaining silent, keeping their voice and their ideas under wraps, to keep working. Your validation of this method, makes it clear that you don't want him to be a' huge star' at all, that you don't want his comedy shows booked, or those audiences to buy tickets to his shows. You want his career destroyed. The fact that it has not been, is no thanks to apologists like you.What exactly happened to Kevin Hart? He was asked not to host the Oscars? That's it?
Last I checked he is still a Huge movie star with commercials on T.V. all the time. He still commands huge audiences for his comedy shows.
What other marginalized groups should Chapelle punch down at?
"They need to 'they' up" you mean.Why should trans people be immune to ridicule by Chappelle? They need to man up and take it in stride.
Why not? If you're selling something why shouldn't it have to be appealing to the people you are trying to sell it to? Cancel culture isn't stopping Kevin Heart from saying a damn thing. He's free to say whatever he wants. It's when he wants to sell his speech as an entertainment commodity that he's forced to appeal to customers. That's capitalism as the OP explained it. It should be minimized because when Kevin Heart can't find a buyer for his speech that isn't some tragedy it's the response of the market place.Why do you keep minimizing blackballing like this - every - single - time? Kevin Hart should not have to lose this very well paying opportunity because people like you cannot seem to handle it that this country, people should not have to choose between remaining silent, keeping their voice and their ideas under wraps, to keep working.
The dangers of voicing you opinion are ridicule and admonishing. If you're unprepared to pay that price then don't open your mouth. You have no right to universal praise and adulation.Stop minimizing the dangers of this 'social justice' tactic of yours, weaponizing every working person's livelihoods when they dare to march, to speak out, to tweet, to write a letter to the editor, to even put a sign on their lawn endorsing a view that is controversial or unpopular.
On the other hand employers shouldn't have to suffer revenue losses because their clients have a problem with them employing controversial figures.It just gets a whole lot worse when working people have to make an even harder choice, not only to lose out on opportunities to pursue their career of choice the way they dreamed, , but to lose out on economic security for themselves, their families, kids. Any time a corporation decides that someone should lose their job for something controversial they said yesterday or 10 years ago, or a cause they marched for, or something they posted, You empower the wrong people, the people who already have benefit of the lion's share of economic power.
Don't know but I kinda like being made fun of as white southerner. Lets me know people are thinking about me. You know Chappelle is one of last funny comedians out there. Have you seen SNL lately? Thought not.
One well-paying opportunity, and yes, he should. An Oscar host is hired because he or she is someone people like, and will bring in good ratings. If a ton of people in the Oscars target demographic don't like the host then they're not going to watch.Why do you keep minimizing blackballing like this - every - single - time? Kevin Hart should not have to lose this very well paying opportunity
I want him and people like him to stop and think about how their words matter. I want him to learn how a megastar like him bashing homosexuality forwards homophobia and contributes to bullying and violence against gay people. If he shows that he understands that then he can star in all the movies he wants to.because people like you cannot seem to handle it that this country, people should not have to choose between remaining silent, keeping their voice and their ideas under wraps, to keep working. Your validation of this method, makes it clear that you don't want him to be a' huge star' at all,
Again, Kevin Hart is still famous. He is still a movie star. He still has commercials on TV every day.Stop minimizing the dangers of this 'social justice' tactic of yours, weaponizing every working person's livelihoods
What if the sign said, "I hate N*ggers!"? I mean if you're a racist piece of shit you'd probably not see why that sign is a problem, but any decent human being should know that that person is a racist piece of shit.when they dare to march, to speak out, to tweet, to write a letter to the editor, to even put a sign on their lawn endorsing a view that is controversial or unpopular.
Are you being ****ing serious right now?It was wrong when it happened to Kevin Hart, to Dixie Chicks, to Earth Kitt, to Burl Ives, or Charlie Chaplin to Lena Horne, Orson Wells.
Your posts are among the more intelligent and thought-provoking I've read on this subject and I'm going back and forth on where I stand. Seems to me there's a fairly obvious and pretty big difference between public actions or public personalities, and private ones. An ordinary person doing stuff in their own time that others disagree with, without breaking any laws or directly harming anyone, shouldn't have it affect their employment unless it actually affects their work or their co-workers. But it doesn't follow from that that celebrities, politicians or others who've chosen to be in the public eye - often profiting mightily from doing so - should be spared pushback from anything they choose to publicize. In most cases that's not even using a different standard for public figures; it's the same standard, because anything which affects their popularity is affecting their work, the product or service they've got to offer.Why do you keep minimizing blackballing like this - every - single - time? Kevin Hart should not have to lose this very well paying opportunity because people like you cannot seem to handle it that this country, people should not have to choose between remaining silent, keeping their voice and their ideas under wraps, to keep working.
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