Who is the worst President in Modern Times?

[NoMoreDems-Reps]

Trump has ending the Gaza war and not a peep out of the Left who were Protesting all over America for a cease fire!
Trump (his Admin) has found 1,000's of Trafficked Children that Biden helped to traffic !
Trump is most likely going to help end the Russia Ukraine war that started because biden was installed!
Trump's tariff $ is going to pay for Service Men and Woman & for other people on Government assistance!
Trump has removed 10's of 1,000's of illegal Criminals that Biden let come in to America and harm/kill America ! ....
Trump has ended the Invasion at the Southern Boarder !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.............
And you do not put biden on the list of Worse Presidents ????......

That's a Special kinda brain washing going on there.

 

[Puigb]

I agree, G.W. Bush’s overall average was inflated. But we could go by the average for each term.

G.W. Bush first term 62%, second term 37%

Obama first term 48%, second term 47%

Trump first term 41%, second term as of today 45%

Biden one term 42%

You have to go back to Bill Clinton to where a president finished both terms at 50% or above approval. Clinton’s first term 50%, second term 61%. But beginning with G.W. Bush’s second term through to today, the party of the president has given their president an approval of around 90%, the party opposing the president approval has been in the single digits. Republicans gave Bill Clinton a 21% approval for his first term, a 33% approval for his second. As long as we stay in today’s modern political era of polarization, the great divide, the super, mega, ultra-high partisanship, you’ll never see the opposing party give the president not of their party that high of an approval rating.

Average opposing party approval beginning with G.W. Bush’s second term.

G.W. Bush second term 8% from democrats

Obama first term 10%, second term 8% from republicans

Trump first term 4%, second term so far 2% from democrats

Biden one term 4% from republicans

It was probably during G.W. Bush’s second term we entered in today’s modern political era although I don’t think one can assign a specific date. It was also when independents began to rise big time from 30% of the electorate in 2006 up to 43% today as both major parties have shrunk.

Obama left office with almost a 60% approval. That's pretty impressive I say.

 

[tosca1]

I thought this question needed asking.

Please keep your whining about polls to a minimum!

Where is BIDEN's name?
You'd think he'd be right under Trump's name, since he was the last President.



You guys try to bury him with "someone else?"

Someone else.
It's a toss up between Biden and the......................................autopen.

 

[Perotista]

Obama left office with almost a 60% approval. That's pretty impressive I say.

Depends on how you look at it. Obama entered office with a 62% approval on his first day and left with a 57% on his last day. What did he do in-between? Averaged 48% for all those days between the first and last. Still, Obama was the most popular president and had the highest public approval of any president since 2000, no doubt.

https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/approval/barack-obama/approval-rating

Which is amazing when one considers by the time of Obama we had entered into today’s modern political era of polarization, the great divided and the super, mega, ultra-high partisanship era.

 

[Puigb]

Depends on how you look at it. Obama entered office with a 62% approval on his first day and left with a 57% on his last day. What did he do in-between? Averaged 48% for all those days between the first and last. Still, Obama was the most popular president and had the highest public approval of any president since 2000, no doubt.

https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/approval/barack-obama/approval-rating

Which is amazing when one considers by the time of Obama we had entered into today’s modern political era of polarization, the great divided and the super, mega, ultra-high partisanship era.

Obama is currently the most popular living president as well. Amazing considering the GOP and their media mouthpieces spent 8 years calling him a foreign born muslim with a fake birth certificate, called his wife a man, etc.

Obama Best Liked Among Living Presidents; Biden, Least

Among the five living men who have served as president, Barack Obama has the most favorable image and Joe Biden the least favorable.

news.gallup.com

 

[Perotista]

Obama is currently the most popular living president as well. Amazing considering the GOP and their media mouthpieces spent 8 years calling him a foreign born muslim with a fake birth certificate, called his wife a man, etc.

Obama Best Liked Among Living Presidents; Biden, Least

Among the five living men who have served as president, Barack Obama has the most favorable image and Joe Biden the least favorable.

news.gallup.com

I liked Obama as a person, also I liked Biden and G.W. Bush as a person. I dislike Trump as a person. Now what you said about the GOP media, only the hardcore republicans believed that. The rest let all that stuff roll off their backs, ignoring it as nothing more than the normal partisan negative political rhetoric that comes from the party that doesn’t hold the presidency or the opposing party. Most have become immune to that type of rhetoric. It’s expected. It’s like the democratic campaign mantra that Trump was a threat to democracy didn’t take hold. That was viewed as normal negative campaign rhetoric, negative campaign propaganda in an attempt to get the people to vote for their candidate, Harris. Nothing more, nothing less. In fact, Trump won those who thought our democracy was threatened by a 50-48 thin margin over Harris last year. No one but democrats paid any attention to it.

https://www.cnn.com/election/2024/exit-polls/national-results/general/president/0

One could say the people, those not republicans nor democrats thought both Trump and his republican party along with Harris and the democratic party were pretty much equal threats to democracy.

 

[The AntiDonald]

No. They are not running the WH. Trump does that. They work for him.

Believe me, they run the WH. They get their instructions from the Heritage Foundation. They get their approval from the Trump court. Plain as day for all to see.
They're not even trying to hide it anymore.

Why do you suppose there are 2600 peaceful protests in 50 states going on today?

The American citizens have reached a tipping point.

 

[The AntiDonald]

I liked Obama as a person, also I liked Biden and G.W. Bush as a person. I dislike Trump as a person. Now what you said about the GOP media, only the hardcore republicans believed that. The rest let all that stuff roll off their backs, ignoring it as nothing more than the normal partisan negative political rhetoric that comes from the party that doesn’t hold the presidency or the opposing party. Most have become immune to that type of rhetoric. It’s expected. It’s like the democratic campaign mantra that Trump was a threat to democracy didn’t take hold. That was viewed as normal negative campaign rhetoric, negative campaign propaganda in an attempt to get the people to vote for their candidate, Harris. Nothing more, nothing less. In fact, Trump won those who thought our democracy was threatened by a 50-48 thin margin over Harris last year. No one but democrats paid any attention to it.

https://www.cnn.com/election/2024/exit-polls/national-results/general/president/0

One could say the people, those not republicans nor democrats thought both Trump and his republican party along with Harris and the democratic party were pretty much equal threats to democracy.

No.. You couldn't say that because MAGA doesn't believe in democracy. We see proof of this on a daily basis.

 

[L88]

I would say Bush II
Closely followed by Biden

 

[Perotista]

No.. You couldn't say that because MAGA doesn't believe in democracy. We see proof of this on a daily basis.

Back last year during the election campaign, they certainly did, and the numbers prove it. Now why would that group of voters who thought our democracy was threatened vote for Trump over Harris if what I said wasn’t true?

https://www.cnn.com/election/2024/exit-polls/national-results/general/president/0

Another interest stat, while 45% of the electorate thought Trump’s political views were too extreme, 39% thought Harris’s political views as being too extreme also with 8% of those who voted thought both Trump and Harris were too extreme. The kicker is that those who thought both Trump and Harris were too extreme, they ended up voting for Trump by a whopping 67-22 margin over Harris with 11% voting third party against both Trump and Harris.

 

[jaypatriot]

I see you’re struggling with the difference between who caused what and who happened to be president.

Trump caused people to die over masks and the vaccine. Biden happened to be president when a lot of the brainwashed Trump minions died.

You wrote: "Trump caused people to die over masks and the vaccine. Biden happened to be president when a lot of the brainwashed Trump minions died."

I don't understand how people could die because of "masks and the vaccine".
DO you mean they listened to Trump to not wear masks and to not get the vaccine? Are there any credible estimates to back up your bizarre assertion?

 

[Absentglare]

You wrote: "Trump caused people to die over masks and the vaccine. Biden happened to be president when a lot of the brainwashed Trump minions died."

I don't understand how people could die because of "masks and the vaccine".
DO you mean they listened to Trump to not wear masks and to not get the vaccine? Are there any credible estimates to back up your bizarre assertion?

Trump’s strategy to combat covid revolved around his own image and not actually managing the disease. He avoided wearing face masks in public for the sake of his own appearance, the effect of that decision was that his supporters sought to reject masks as well as distancing and other health guidelines.

The fact that you would dare to deny this is baffling, as this is all obviously true.

 

[jaypatriot]

Trump’s strategy to combat covid revolved around his own image and not actually managing the disease. He avoided wearing face masks in public for the sake of his own appearance, the effect of that decision was that his supporters sought to reject masks as well as distancing and other health guidelines.

The fact that you would dare to deny this is baffling, as this is all obviously true.

"his supporters sought to reject masks as well as distancing and other health guidelines."

That only goes to show you some of his supporters are truly stupid and ignorant of the real efficacy of the Covid vaccine.
People who listen to what Trump says deserve to be in a cult because they can't think for themselves.

 

[Absentglare]

"his supporters sought to reject masks as well as distancing and other health guidelines."

That only goes to show you some of his supporters are truly stupid and ignorant of the real efficacy of the Covid vaccine.
People who listen to what Trump says deserve to be in a cult because they can't think for themselves.

What the president says matters. Words matter. In times like a pandemic, they become even more important.

Since May 31, 2020, the South experienced COVID-19 mortality 26% higher than the national rate, whereas the Northeast’s rate was 42% lower. If each region had the same mortality rate as the Northeast, more than 316,234 COVID-19 deaths between May 31, 2020 and Sept. 26, 2021 were "avoidable."

COVID-19 mortality in the United States: It’s been two Americas from the start - PMC

During the summer of 2021, a narrative of "two Americas" emerged: one with high demand for the COVID-19 vaccine and the second with widespread vaccine hesitancy and opposition to masks and vaccines. We analyzed “excess mortality” rates (the ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Trump killed a lot of Americans with his pride.

 

[jaypatriot]

What the president says matters. Words matter. In times like a pandemic, they become even more important.

COVID-19 mortality in the United States: It’s been two Americas from the start - PMC

During the summer of 2021, a narrative of "two Americas" emerged: one with high demand for the COVID-19 vaccine and the second with widespread vaccine hesitancy and opposition to masks and vaccines. We analyzed “excess mortality” rates (the ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Trump killed a lot of Americans with his pride.

Are you suggesting people from the South appeared to be more ignorant than the people from the Northeast?
You're from California. You're smart enough to realize Trump lies.
If you believe what he says more than what he does, then maybe you've spent too many years in the South.

 

[Bighorn66]

I thought this question needed asking.

Please keep your whining about polls to a minimum!

Would you consider it whining if I pointed out to you that George H. W. Bush was the 41st president and certainly not the one you intended? I wouldn’t. I would consider it laughing at your ignorance.

Bwahahahahahahaha.



Bwahahahahaha!!!!!

 

[Hatuey]

Would you consider it whining if I pointed out to you that George H. W. Bush was the 41st president and certainly not the one you intended? I wouldn’t. I would consider it laughing at your ignorance.

Bwahahahahahahaha.



Bwahahahahaha!!!!!

I think the dude that did the first Iraq war was pretty garbage. He was so bad at being president that Clinton won.

 

[Bighorn66]

I think the dude that did the first Iraq war was pretty garbage. He was so bad at being president that Clinton won.

That was an inelegant dismount.

 

[Hatuey]

That was an inelegant dismount.

If you really want to defend the deep state operative who couldn't even beat Saddam, just say so, dude.

No need to yap and pretend you're some sort of mind reader.

 

[j brown's body]

Trump has ending the Gaza war and not a peep out of the Left who were Protesting all over America for a cease fire!
Trump (his Admin) has found 1,000's of Trafficked Children that Biden helped to traffic !
Trump is most likely going to help end the Russia Ukraine war that started because biden was installed!
Trump's tariff $ is going to pay for Service Men and Woman & for other people on Government assistance!
Trump has removed 10's of 1,000's of illegal Criminals that Biden let come in to America and harm/kill America ! ....
Trump has ended the Invasion at the Southern Boarder !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.............
And you do not put biden on the list of Worse Presidents ????......

That's a Special kinda brain washing going on there.

He let a pandemic run out of control, responsible for the death of thousands.

Now you all give him another chance.

Awesome.

 

[Absentglare]

Are you suggesting people from the South appeared to be more ignorant than the people from the Northeast?
You're from California. You're smart enough to realize Trump lies.
If you believe what he says more than what he does, then maybe you've spent too many years in the South.

The words and actions taken by the president matter, he sets the tone at the top. When the president is irresponsible, people will follow his lead.

You know this is true. It’s true for parents, it’s true for CEOs, and it’s definitely true for presidents. We need a president who cares about our people.

 

[Captain Adverse]

Even a caveman knows the correct answer to this question: The puppet who just left office.

I don't even bother answering these kinds of "polls."

They are not designed to get a sense of where people are on a subject, they are simply designed to see how many members agree with the pollster. It's a call seeking reinforcement of the pollsters established confirmation biases.

 

[jaypatriot]

The words and actions taken by the president matter, he sets the tone at the top. When the president is irresponsible, people will follow his lead.

You know this is true. It’s true for parents, it’s true for CEOs, and it’s definitely true for presidents. We need a president who cares about our people.

And you expect Trump as president to really care for people?
Seven million people took to the streets today to let everyone know how much they don't care for him. AND HE EARNED 77 MILLION VOTES LAST YEAR!
I guess I have to repeat it again and again.
Trump lies. People know he lies. You know he lies and yet what he says you say it should be the truth. People keep wanting him to tell the truth and he doesn't.
Isn't that like the old joke about insanity?

Insanity Is Doing the Same Thing Over and Over Again and Expecting Different Results​

 

[Puigb]

I liked Obama as a person, also I liked Biden and G.W. Bush as a person. I dislike Trump as a person. Now what you said about the GOP media, only the hardcore republicans believed that. The rest let all that stuff roll off their backs, ignoring it as nothing more than the normal partisan negative political rhetoric that comes from the party that doesn’t hold the presidency or the opposing party. Most have become immune to that type of rhetoric. It’s expected. It’s like the democratic campaign mantra that Trump was a threat to democracy didn’t take hold. That was viewed as normal negative campaign rhetoric, negative campaign propaganda in an attempt to get the people to vote for their candidate, Harris. Nothing more, nothing less. In fact, Trump won those who thought our democracy was threatened by a 50-48 thin margin over Harris last year. No one but democrats paid any attention to it.

https://www.cnn.com/election/2024/exit-polls/national-results/general/president/0

One could say the people, those not republicans nor democrats thought both Trump and his republican party along with Harris and the democratic party were pretty much equal threats to democracy.

Trump also won voters who largely don't pay attention to politics. The dude and his handlers literally tried to overthrow an election he lost 4 years before. People have short memories, don't pay attention, and vote with their wallets. This immensely benefitted Trump.

Inflation, which really hurt the Biden administration in 2024, will be the GOP's downfall in 2026, and 2028, IMO.

 

[uptower]

Objectively it would be the one who faced the most public opposition to his presidency.