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So isreal is "deliberately" murdering civilians?

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Although I can't rule this out, I highly doubt it.

Those of you crying this claim. I think we need to define "deliberate".

In every war civilians are killed.

And every army knows they will kill civilians before they attack. So is that deliberate?

If your enemy is always hiding among civilians, does that mean you lay down? Let them bomb you at will, and not fight back, lest you "deliberately" kill civilians?



At some point a population has To take responsibility for allowing their terror groups to hide among them, or pay consequences.
 
Simpletruther said:
Although I can't rule this out, I highly doubt it.

Those of you crying this claim. I think we need to define "deliberate".

In every war civilians are killed.

And every army knows they will kill civilians before they attack. So is that deliberate?

If your enemy is always hiding among civilians, does that mean you lay down? Let them bomb you at will, and not fight back, lest you "deliberately" kill civilians?



At some point a population has To take responsibility for allowing their terror groups to hide among them, or pay consequences.
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Hamas uses civilians as shields. Will there be civilians killed? Ask the Israeli families that just lost nearly 1,ooo of their family members. Women, babies include.
 
Bok Tuklo said:
“At some point a population has To take responsibility for allowing their terror groups to hide among them, or pay consequences.”

Perhaps I’ve misunderstood.
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Yes you did. That dies not inply they deserve it.
 
I hear Israel is giving warnings so they can evacuate before the bombing but I'm unsure this is accurate, I heard it on the news. Hamas on the other hand is not giving warnings.
 
Ginger Ale said:
I hear Israel is giving warnings so they can evacuate before the bombing but I'm unsure this is accurate, I heard it on the news. Hamas on the other hand is not giving warnings.
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I have no doubt Isreal is doing all it reasonably can to minimize civilian casualties.

These cries of "murdering civilians" is likely nonsense and coming from people brainwashed by biased sources.
 
Simpletruther said:
Although I can't rule this out, I highly doubt it.

Those of you crying this claim. I think we need to define "deliberate".

In every war civilians are killed.

And every army knows they will kill civilians before they attack. So is that deliberate?

If your enemy is always hiding among civilians, does that mean you lay down? Let them bomb you at will, and not fight back, lest you "deliberately" kill civilians?



At some point a population has To take responsibility for allowing their terror groups to hide among them, or pay consequences.
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Scenario: Insurgents are using a courtyard of a house to hold a mortar and launch mortar attacks against Israeli forces.

Options:
A- Fire a Hellfire missile or Maverick missile into the courtyard, potentially killing people in the house or surrounding houses, but not causing much damage outside the courtyard.
B- Drop a thousand pound bomb, obliterating the house and damaging the houses around it.
C- Carpet bomb the neighborhood, destroying all the buildings in the area.

If you can't see B and C as deliberate killing of civilians, I don't know what to tell you.
 
Ginger Ale said:
I hear Israel is giving warnings so they can evacuate before the bombing but I'm unsure this is accurate, I heard it on the news. Hamas on the other hand is not giving warnings.
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Where exactly are people supposed to evacuate to? Especially considering the Israelis are stopping anyone from leaving.
 
Simpletruther said:
Although I can't rule this out, I highly doubt it.

Those of you crying this claim. I think we need to define "deliberate".

In every war civilians are killed.

And every army knows they will kill civilians before they attack. So is that deliberate?

If your enemy is always hiding among civilians, does that mean you lay down? Let them bomb you at will, and not fight back, lest you "deliberately" kill civilians?



At some point a population has To take responsibility for allowing their terror groups to hide among them, or pay consequences.
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So, your comment would imply that we in the US need to take responsibility and take care of our Domestic Terrorists, who are currently our biggest threat? Just laughable.
 
Questerr said:
Where exactly are people supposed to evacuate to? Especially considering the Israelis are stopping anyone from leaving.
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Good point, but I heard they had a few shelters. Like I said, it was a blip in the news today.
 
dseag2 said:
So, your comment would imply that we in the US need to take responsibility and take care of our Domestic Terrorists, who are currently our biggest threat? Just laughable.
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Do you disagree?
 
Questerr said:
Scenario: Insurgents are using a courtyard of a house to hold a mortar and launch mortar attacks against Israeli forces.

Options:
A- Fire a Hellfire missile or Maverick missile into the courtyard, potentially killing people in the house or surrounding houses, but not causing much damage outside the courtyard.
B- Drop a thousand pound bomb, obliterating the house and damaging the houses around it.
C- Carpet bomb the neighborhood, destroying all the buildings in the area.

If you can't see B and C as deliberate killing of civilians, I don't know what to tell you.
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I did tnot day it wasn't.
 
Questerr said:
Scenario: Insurgents are using a courtyard of a house to hold a mortar and launch mortar attacks against Israeli forces.

Options:
A- Fire a Hellfire missile or Maverick missile into the courtyard, potentially killing people in the house or surrounding houses, but not causing much damage outside the courtyard.
B- Drop a thousand pound bomb, obliterating the house and damaging the houses around it.
C- Carpet bomb the neighborhood, destroying all the buildings in the area.

If you can't see B and C as deliberate killing of civilians, I don't know what to tell you.
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If you want to get rid of Hamas you need to level Gaza. That's the only way. Gaza is full of tunnels and underground facilities built by Hamas. Level it, and then rebuild it if you choose but you better be careful of who comes in.
 
dseag2 said:
There is the FBI for that, not the "population" of the country. I doubt Gaza has something similar. So, yes I disagree.
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Collectly yes they do. Why have thwir "fbi" not done it?

The ANSWER may lie in heavy public support for hamas. Or at least begrudgingly sympathy
 
Questerr said:
Scenario: Insurgents are using a courtyard of a house to hold a mortar and launch mortar attacks against Israeli forces.

Options:
A- Fire a Hellfire missile or Maverick missile into the courtyard, potentially killing people in the house or surrounding houses, but not causing much damage outside the courtyard.
B- Drop a thousand pound bomb, obliterating the house and damaging the houses around it.
C- Carpet bomb the neighborhood, destroying all the buildings in the area.

If you can't see B and C as deliberate killing of civilians, I don't know what to tell you.
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So how is a country who has been attacked respond when the attackers hide among civilians? The blame for every civilian death in Gaza lies at the feet of Hamas, not Israel.
 
Questerr said:
So you want the US to aggressively go after Rightwing extremists? Cracking down on them and their supporters?
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We already do collectively. Thst Why they never cause trouble.
 
Integrityrespec said:
If you want to get rid of Hamas you need to level Gaza. That's the only way. Gaza is full of tunnels and underground facilities built by Hamas. Level it, and then rebuild it if you choose but you better be careful of who comes in.
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And all the civilians living there just get deliberately massacred?
 
Fletch said:
So how is a country who has been attacked respond when the attackers hide among civilians? The blame for every civilian death in Gaza lies at the feet of Hamas, not Israel.
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I just said how. When you locate the insurgents, you use tactics and weapons that minimize civilian casualties.
 
Simpletruther said:
Although I can't rule this out, I highly doubt it.

Those of you crying this claim. I think we need to define "deliberate".

In every war civilians are killed.

And every army knows they will kill civilians before they attack. So is that deliberate?

If your enemy is always hiding among civilians, does that mean you lay down? Let them bomb you at will, and not fight back, lest you "deliberately" kill civilians?



At some point a population has To take responsibility for allowing their terror groups to hide among them, or pay consequences.
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They've actually been doing that for quite some time.
 
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