Montecresto
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Cigarettes have hundreds of different chemicals, some of which are carcinogenic. Pollution from a surrounding industrial area could contain hundreds of thousands of chemicals of all different types. What that pollution settles on an area and the weather systems cannot move that pollution out, that baby is breathing in those thousands of chemicals every minute of every day for years, not just car trips. Common sense tells me polluted cities like LA can cause much worse symptoms since it's in the air the child breaths every day all day - inside our out.
Odd how we are so quick to crack down on Tobacco, and yet the movement is in favor of marijuana.
In the meantime, in defense of honesty and consistency, let me know when the banners agree that we also need to ban children below the age of 8 from living in Los Angeles.
I consider Canada to be a more advanced nation....Give us another decade, and we may catch up.
I think many smokers are god damned selfish morons who are too stupid to know what they're doing to themselves and too pig-headed and arrogant to understand what they may be doing to others.
I grew up with a smoking father. Cigars and pipes. I smoked as a late teen and early 20-something.
Then I quit for good.
I wonder how may people here objecting to this new ban are parents of small children, or just smokers without kids who are getting more and more butt-hurt over the growing public objection to their deadly and filthy habit?
No more children eight and under breathing the LA air!
I think many smokers are god damned selfish morons who are too stupid to know what they're doing to themselves and too pig-headed and arrogant to understand what they may be doing to others.
I grew up with a smoking father. Cigars and pipes. I smoked as a late teen and early 20-something.
Then I quit for good.
I wonder how may people here objecting to this new ban are parents of small children, or just smokers without kids who are getting more and more butt-hurt over the growing public objection to their deadly and filthy habit?
Why did you address this post to me?
Do you have proof that second hand smoke kills children?I look at it this way - if you want to kill yourself, who am I to stop you.
If you want to take your children with you, then we have a problem.
No more children eight and under breathing the LA air!
When I was growing up, everyone smoked. The deacons at church went outside to smoke between Sunday School and the worship service. Doctors smoked... IN the examination room with their patients. Including my childhood doctor. Teachers smoked. There was a student smoking area at my Jr High and High schools.
Everybody frigging smoked, all the time. I guess it is no wonder I started at age 13... I've often said it was "in self-defense".
I remember riding in a Buick with my parents, two sisters and their husbands... all of them smoking. I was probably 6 or 7. It was cold, but I complained so much about the cloud of smoke in the car that they cracked the window a little for me, and I literally stuck my nose out of it trying to get a breath of fresh air. I didn't care that my nose was turning blue from the cold. It was suffocating in that car full of smoke.
I remember resenting that the adults would not listen to me, that they were choking me to death.
Well, that was then. We (collective we) knew smoking wasn't good for you, but we didn't know HOW bad it was, and there wasn't the societal anathema on it that exists today.
I'm kind of torn on the issue. On the one hand I don't like gov't intrusion into private property or child rearing in any but very serious matters. OTOH I remember being a little kid thinking I was going to choke riding in a closed car full of smoking adults.
Here's the thing: if it is one person smoking, with the window rolled down... that's one thing. Really, no big deal except for the anti-smoking fanatics.
Multiple smokers with the windows rolled up.... that's a miserable thing to inflict on anybody, especially kids who lack the ability to MAKE someone roll down the damn window.
So I dunno... exercising a little common sense courtesy would go a long way...
A person cannot do anything about that. That is why this is a stupid comparison. They CAN not smoke in the car when their children are present, unless they just don't care and smoking is MORE important than their child's/children's health. My point being that it's too bad we have to even discuss having such dumb laws because people are such morons.
Do you have proof that second hand smoke kills children?
I don't disagree, I was just being cheeky, sorry.
When I was growing up, everyone smoked. The deacons at church went outside to smoke between Sunday School and the worship service. Doctors smoked... IN the examination room with their patients. Including my childhood doctor. Teachers smoked. There was a student smoking area at my Jr High and High schools.
Everybody frigging smoked, all the time. I guess it is no wonder I started at age 13... I've often said it was "in self-defense".
I remember riding in a Buick with my parents, two sisters and their husbands... all of them smoking. I was probably 6 or 7. It was cold, but I complained so much about the cloud of smoke in the car that they cracked the window a little for me, and I literally stuck my nose out of it trying to get a breath of fresh air. I didn't care that my nose was turning blue from the cold. It was suffocating in that car full of smoke.
I remember resenting that the adults would not listen to me, that they were choking me to death.
Well, that was then. We (collective we) knew smoking wasn't good for you, but we didn't know HOW bad it was, and there wasn't the societal anathema on it that exists today.
I'm kind of torn on the issue. On the one hand I don't like gov't intrusion into private property or child rearing in any but very serious matters. OTOH I remember being a little kid thinking I was going to choke riding in a closed car full of smoking adults.
Here's the thing: if it is one person smoking, with the window rolled down... that's one thing. Really, no big deal except for the anti-smoking fanatics.
Multiple smokers with the windows rolled up.... that's a miserable thing to inflict on anybody, especially kids who lack the ability to MAKE someone roll down the damn window.
So I dunno... exercising a little common sense courtesy would go a long way...
In the United States, cigarette sales topped in 1981, with 636 billion cigarettes. While cigarette consumption has almost dropped to half of this figure, the same cannot be said of lung cancer. Lung cancer does not seem to mind whether people smoke or not.
I like this ban but, people ought to have sense enough to do it on their own.
NOW HOW ABOUT FRIGGING TEXTING?????
A person cannot do anything about that. That is why this is a stupid comparison. They CAN not smoke in the car when their children are present, unless they just don't care and smoking is MORE important than their child's/children's health. My point being that it's too bad we have to even discuss having such dumb laws because people are such morons.
what's odd is that "back in the day" almost everyone smoked and yet the number of people dying from cancer was actually lower per capita
Smoking Down, Lung Cancer Up | Frank Davis
I like this ban but, people ought to have sense enough to do it on their own.
NOW HOW ABOUT FRIGGING TEXTING?????
the govt shouldn't be in the business of policing stupidity
Of course not. But I also think the baby would protest very loudly if the smoke was enough to be significant.Ever see that sticky orange stuff running down the walls in the house of a smoker when there's some humidity? Ever move a picture and look at the orange stained walls? I would think that also gets into your body. Do you think that's healthy for a baby's tiny little lungs?
what's odd is that "back in the day" almost everyone smoked and yet the number of people dying from cancer was actually lower per capita
Smoking Down, Lung Cancer Up | Frank Davis
Of course not. But I also think the baby would protest very loudly if the smoke was enough to be significant.
I don't know about actual lung cancer, but I do know that there is a correlation between cigarettes and other types of lung disease, such as emphysema, chronic bronchitis, chronic pneumonia, and other respiratory illness. They have never been able to make the case that cigarettes actually cause lung cancer, but I'm sure it doesn't help either.
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