Somehow, the establishment thinks, it can instruct all those millions of Republican voters who came out for Trump and Cruz and Kasich to fall in line behind, say, Speaker Paul Ryan.
This is the nostrum being proposed to save the Republican Party. The greater likelihood is that it will blow the party up, triggering everything from brawls over rules and credentials, to post-convention efforts to launch a third party or write in campaign, to guerrilla wars at the state and local level, with primaries and party purges threatening anyone who embraced the “party will decide!” philosophy.
Why the likelihood of such fury? Because the underlying question the Republicans will face in Cleveland is whether one can really turn back the clock. Now that ordinary Republican voters, like Democrats, have experienced decades of real democracy, what will their reaction be if it’s taken away from them? The polls tell us that Republican voters want no part of such a process. Even in Wisconsin, where GOP voters decisively rejected Trump, exit polls indicated that most Republicans want the nominee to be the one with the plurality of votes.
And that feeling is not confined to Wisconsin. A Bloomberg Politics poll in late March found that 63 percent of Republicans polled want the candidate with the most delegates by the time of the convention to win the nomination. Only 33 percent said the delegates should pick the nominee regardless of the count at convention time. And a pro-Trump PAC is running ads on FOX News urging viewers to register that sentiment with their phone calls.
Politico today has an excellent article which does a tremendous job at showing why the fiction that a GOP open convention is the answer to their problems.
Can GOP Elites Really Turn Back the Clock in Cleveland? - POLITICO Magazine
They point out that some GOP elitists live in their own world divorced from the one voters live in and are contemptuous of voters and dismiss their power as exercised in the primary.
Its a eye opening view that - if accurate - spells nothing but more problems for the GOP down the road should they decide to stop Trump and turn to somebody like Ryan or even Kasich.
here is a taste of the article - please read the whole thing
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I agree but it is pretty obvious to me at least that the party establishment doesn't care. I doubt they care that much about the party either. It is all about power and control as with everything else in politics.
Politico today has an excellent article which does a tremendous job at showing why the fiction that a GOP open convention is the answer to their problems.
Can GOP Elites Really Turn Back the Clock in Cleveland? - POLITICO Magazine
They point out that some GOP elitists live in their own world divorced from the one voters live in and are contemptuous of voters and dismiss their power as exercised in the primary.
Its a eye opening view that - if accurate - spells nothing but more problems for the GOP down the road should they decide to stop Trump and turn to somebody like Ryan or even Kasich.
here is a taste of the article - please read the whole thing
Read more: Can GOP Elites Really Turn Back the Clock in Cleveland? - POLITICO Magazine
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You mean the voter wants to pay double for underpants instead of importing them so she can have a $15 minimum wage and not buy a Porsche? I don't think voters really like reality. It's more the dreams, they love.
Whenever political or other systems get too far out-of-balance, an upheaval occurs to restore balance. I don't necessarily see this as a bad process, since a realignment must be done if the GOP are to win the Presidency in the near future. There's not just the partly-line involved, but voters' expectations need to be realistic as well. What the voters want, can't always be accomplished!Politico today has an excellent article which does a tremendous job at showing why the fiction that a GOP open convention is the answer to their problems.
Can GOP Elites Really Turn Back the Clock in Cleveland? - POLITICO Magazine
They point out that some GOP elitists live in their own world divorced from the one voters live in and are contemptuous of voters and dismiss their power as exercised in the primary.
Its a eye opening view that - if accurate - spells nothing but more problems for the GOP down the road should they decide to stop Trump and turn to somebody like Ryan or even Kasich.
here is a taste of the article - please read the whole thing
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Well, this is a double-edged sword: As with most human endeavors, individual self-interest here reigns supreme. However, those in power & influence are smart enough to know that in this endeavor (political ascendancy) they need to be part of a group power-structure to be effective. So the power of the individuals is also often incumbent upon the success of the party.I agree but it is pretty obvious to me at least that the party establishment doesn't care. I doubt they care that much about the party either. It is all about power and control as with everything else in politics.
Politico today has an excellent article which does a tremendous job at showing why the fiction that a GOP open convention is the answer to their problems.
Can GOP Elites Really Turn Back the Clock in Cleveland? - POLITICO Magazine
They point out that some GOP elitists live in their own world divorced from the one voters live in and are contemptuous of voters and dismiss their power as exercised in the primary.
Its a eye opening view that - if accurate - spells nothing but more problems for the GOP down the road should they decide to stop Trump and turn to somebody like Ryan or even Kasich.
here is a taste of the article - please read the whole thing
Read more: Can GOP Elites Really Turn Back the Clock in Cleveland? - POLITICO Magazine
Follow us: @politico on Twitter | Politico on Facebook
Politico today has an excellent article which does a tremendous job at showing why the fiction that a GOP open convention is the answer to their problems.
Whenever political or other systems get too far out-of-balance, an upheaval occurs to restore balance. I don't necessarily see this as a bad process, since a realignment must be done if the GOP are to win the Presidency in the near future. There's not just the partly-line involved, but voters' expectations need to be realistic as well. What the voters want, can't always be accomplished!
Didn't listen (yet), but I give it to the Greeks!Haymarket and Chomsky - this is way off topic, but I was listening to an intelligence-squared debate yesterday, and it was a real joy to listen to two English professors - with all the scathing wit at their command - debate whether Greece or Rome had more influence on the modern day. I think you'd both really enjoy it!
Didn't listen (yet), but I give it to the Greeks!
The Greeks had the ideas, and the Romans had the technology & means! And ideas always win the way in terms of importance. CF: "democracy", "captalism", "freedom", etc. Come-up with a great idea, and an inspired someone will implement it; conversely, bad ideas even well implemented, usually collapse, often quite spectacularly!
I must admit that while I enjoyed watching the train wrecks that were the last two GOP presidential runs, this one really makes me want to break out the popcorn. I'd set aside two dozen wings and a couple six-packs of beer for watching the election night results, but my Darling won't let me get away with that. My sons tell me I'm too "whipped". Yeah...but I love her more than I love beer. Man, what has happened to me????
Well, this is a double-edged sword: As with most human endeavors, individual self-interest here reigns supreme. However, those in power & influence are smart enough to know that in this endeavor (political ascendancy) they need to be part of a group power-structure to be effective. So the power of the individuals is also often incumbent upon the success of the party.
So these guys are always running the line of their personal power being largely derived from the structure of the party power. The spoils of being an elite within the Republican or Democratic Party are far different than a similar position within, say The United States Pirate Party or Marijuana Parties! So these guys need the Republican Party to succeed if they want to remain big-time players!
Haymarket and Chomsky - this is way off topic, but I was listening to an intelligence-squared debate yesterday, and it was a real joy to listen to two English professors - with all the scathing wit at their command - debate whether Greece or Rome had more influence on the modern day. I think you'd both really enjoy it!
I can sympathize my friend. During the week of the GOP Convention in Cleveland, my wife and I have our annual vacation week with the kids uo in northern Michigan where we rent a big house with a pool and everybody just chills for a week. And my wife has already dropped a few less than subtle hints that our vacation will not be spent watching the GOP savage each other for more than what we might get on the nightly news.
What has happened to you is the same thing that happens to all men who stay married - we learn the most important three words you can ever say to a woman are NOT "I love you" but "you're right dear".
What is the old saying? Happy wife- happy life.
Yeah...and the problem is, she usually IS right. I've read many hundreds of books over the years, and she's read ONE fiction book and probably less than ten non-fiction books...and she thinks and argues circles around me. I thought I was smart...until I married her. She's such a good girl, but she's tough as nails when she needs to be.
The story I like to tell is how one time she was at our house in the Philippines (I was here stateside) and she saw a small snake in the kitchen...and the snake was crawling with its head raised - apparently, a young cobra. She not only chases it out of the kitchen, but when it went into a small pile of rocks behind the house, she took a machete, dug through the rocks till she found the cobra, and chopped it into little pieces. I'm telling you, Angelina Jolie has nothing on her!
Were you replying to the thread about the GOP elites and the primary voters? I ask because I am confused what your reply means in relation to that story.
Politico today has an excellent article which does a tremendous job at showing why the fiction that a GOP open convention is the answer to their problems.
Can GOP Elites Really Turn Back the Clock in Cleveland? - POLITICO Magazine
They point out that some GOP elitists live in their own world divorced from the one voters live in and are contemptuous of voters and dismiss their power as exercised in the primary.
Its a eye opening view that - if accurate - spells nothing but more problems for the GOP down the road should they decide to stop Trump and turn to somebody like Ryan or even Kasich.
here is a taste of the article - please read the whole thing
Read more: Can GOP Elites Really Turn Back the Clock in Cleveland? - POLITICO Magazine
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