Yea I know.. Top Gear ftw. However was thinking more about ITV, Channel 4 and 5Although does the BBC not have one of the dancing ones?
You watch those channels?
I haven't watched ITV since Trevor McDonald left and channel 5 just never, not since i was a little kid.
Strictly come? Don't watch it.
Have you been watching the series 13, omg Jay Leno is hilarious and when they went France
Do nothing at all? No. We should take their children, put them up for adoption and require the miscreants to go on mandatory birth control to stay out of jail, or receive public assistance.
I have zero interest in keeping criminal or highly dysfunctional families intact.
Nope, because in this house.. one person rules the tv remote (and it aint me) and that person loves Strickly come Dance, X-Factor and so on...
I get to watch Top Gear on reruns or from downloading on the net... maybe I should stimulate the Spanish economy by buying a second dish for Sky TV!.. hmmmz
In my opinion, mandatory birth control is truly underused as a crime prevention method.
'Just who the hell do you think you are to be able to levy liberty upon people or not?'
And then you go onto decide that there is no levy on liberty - that everyone should get it - effectively creating the double-standard. What makes you so qualified to say EVERYONE deserves unhindered liberty but him not qualified enough to say liberty needs regulation as pertains to dysfunctional families?
I agree with the due process of law. But you must understand that the people who are partaking in this to the extremities mentioned are people who are either actively not raising their children to a sufficient standard or are already using state legisation and assistance to their advantage.
Yes I am so against any form of forced birth control of any kind unless it is with the extremely mentally handicapped and only then in a case by case situation.
Unless there is a crime committed, you can not rightfully infringe upon the rights and liberties of the individual and that includes people who may or may not be taking advantage of welfare benefits.
So, in Pete world, a woman can have 5 children, physically abuse all of them, and you're in favor of her being able to continue to breed more offspring to abuse.
Right?
Because i've actually seen that happen, in practice.
So, in Pete world, a woman can have 5 children, physically abuse all of them, and you're in favor of her being able to continue to breed more offspring to abuse.
Have you proven that these people have not committed crimes?
Her own sister is calling for her tube cutting.
However as a principle I am against forced sterilization or birth control unless as I stated, in extreme cases and only a case by case basis.
Should the woman in your example have her tubes tied?
Maybe, but how about if she was not abusing her kids but only unemployed and living off the state?
A woman having a kid with a Muslim?
How about a woman having a 3rd child with a 3rd man?
How about a lesbian? Or is it just drug addicts? How about former druggies? Drunks? people that smoke?
Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. I know I know...freedom's a bitch.
I was thinking Norplant by sniper rifle, but I'd be okay with tubal ligation.
:rofl That's funny as hell.
It's possible I've spent too much time contemplating the subject:
"What I'd do if I were dictator of the world."
It's more efficient your way, I like it!
Item 1:
Norplant all the stupid people, post haste.
From what gunner has said these people and their children should have already been prosecuted and imprisoned.
People are almost never imprisoned for child abuse unless someone is raped or died.
That's not what I'm talking about, Yankee Doodle. I'm saying: Do you know definitively that these people who are being subjected to this monitoring weren't guilty of criminal child abuse?
You don't.
My family engaged in it with good sucess.Adoption is a damn difficult thing to partake in.
What I'm saying King George, is that unless you can show some form of reasonable suspicion and are able to obtain a warrant, there's nothing you can do to put these people under surveillance. Not rightfully.
I've had limited experience with this and your right.
My previous neighbor was doing meth and her daughter was already in jail for meth as well. So she had custody for her daughters child which she never really took care of and when DFCS finally came to get the kid, the little girl had a newborn diaper on with duck tape holding it together because she was took big for it.
Of course she wasn't arrested even though she was the primary caretaker and had not done her duty to care for the child. It's insanity.
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