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In your opinion, were they patriots, just rioters or there to stop the congress from naming Biden president?
 
independentusa said:
In your opinion, were they patriots, just rioters or there to stop the congress from naming Biden president?
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There were people there for many reasons some who did not have the best of intentions, others looking to peacefully protest
 
independentusa said:
In your opinion, were they patriots, just rioters or there to stop the congress from naming Biden president?
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They were trying to stop Biden from becoming president.

They were trying to prevent government from doing it's job.

They were disrupting a session of Congress.

They were all insurrectionists.
 
independentusa said:
In your opinion, were they patriots, just rioters or there to stop the congress from naming Biden president?
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Some are criminal insurrectionists. Most I judge as not very bright, as they were led to be there by listening to Trump.
 
independentusa said:
In your opinion, were they patriots, just rioters or there to stop the congress from naming Biden president?
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none of those.
They were deplorables who allow themselves to be led by the crowd. Scum. Intellectual, moral, scum without character
 
independentusa said:
In your opinion, were they patriots, just rioters or there to stop the congress from naming Biden president?
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None of them were patriots. Most of them were there to peacefully support Donald Trump's failed attempt to undermine American Democracy and install himself as an unelected leader. Some of them were there to cause trouble and hurt people. Some of them were there to stop Congress from obeying the will of the American people by naming Joe Biden president.
 
BabaVoss said:
Not sure. Who is Ray Epps? Was he there? What did he do?
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He was an FBI operative that led the riot. He's never been arrested and has been praised by the J6 committee and 60 Minutes did a glowing piece on him.
 
M1Gringo said:
He was an FBI operative that led the riot. He's never been arrested and has been praised by the J6 committee and 60 Minutes did a glowing piece on him.
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Doesn’t sound like a criminal insurrectionist to me. You? Lots of people there that day are, through.
 
independentusa said:
In your opinion, were they patriots, just rioters or there to stop the congress from naming Biden president?
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The most generous thing I can say is they believed they were patriots, but they were lied to by an opportunist who had them do the dirty work.
 
M1Gringo said:
He was an FBI operative that led the riot. He's never been arrested and has been praised by the J6 committee and 60 Minutes did a glowing piece on him.
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That's been debunked. From the 60 minutes piece and the FBI: "Ray Epps has never been an FBI source or an FBI employee."

He is a passionate Trump supporter from Arizona who currently lives in an RV and moves around in order to protect himself from MAGA extremists who believe every conspiracy theory they read.

https://www.congress.gov/congressional-report/117th-congress/house-report/544/1?s=1&r=86
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jan-6-...ps-was-a-federal-agent-60-minutes-2023-04-23/
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/05/us/jan-6-ray-epps-evidence.html
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...V-death-threats-FBI-informant-conspiracy.html
 
independentusa said:
In your opinion, were they patriots, just rioters or there to stop the congress from naming Biden president?
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1,000+ of them have been convicted and are criminals. Some are charged with seditious conspiracy for conspiring to overthrow the government

Not all supporters charged the capitol and did attempt to have a a peaceful protest

The ones that charged the capitol they were neither patriots or rioters but rather criminal insurrectionists IMO

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BabaVoss said:
Doesn’t sound like a criminal insurrectionist to me. You? Lots of people there that day are, through.
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Ray is a faithful servant of the Washington Establishment and made sure that his small army of goons removed barricades and then incite a riot. Nancy made sure her daughter was there to video record the day's activities. It was quite a production!
 
Well we do know a Fed cop who has a documented history of losing his gun essentially sucker punched Ashly Babbitt from the shadows and murdered her. And from the oblique at that.

What a man.
 
lwf said:
That's been debunked. From the 60 minutes piece and the FBI: "Ray Epps has never been an FBI source or an FBI employee."

He is a passionate Trump supporter from Arizona who currently lives in an RV and moves around in order to protect himself from MAGA violence.

https://www.congress.gov/congressional-report/117th-congress/house-report/544/1?s=1&r=86
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jan-6-...ps-was-a-federal-agent-60-minutes-2023-04-23/
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/05/us/jan-6-ray-epps-evidence.html
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...V-death-threats-FBI-informant-conspiracy.html
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Riiiiiight.

Ray Epps was on video in D.C. on the night of 1/5 imploring people to go "INTO" the Capitol. On 1/6 Epps was front-and-center directing the activities of many others.

You don't think it's odd that the J6 committee and the Washington Establishment's media goons at 60 Minutes praised Epps?
 
They were all rioters, insurrectionists, lunatics, and idiots. Some figured out a way to be all 4, others ****ed around and still found out.
 
M1Gringo said:
Riiiiiight.

Ray Epps was on video in D.C. on the night of 1/5 imploring people to go "INTO" the Capitol. On 1/6 Epps was front-and-center directing the activities of many others.

You don't think it's odd that the J6 committee and the Washington Establishment's media goons at 60 Minutes praised Epps?
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That's nice. Do you have any actual evidence?
 
Luce said:
www.nbcnews.com

Pro-Trump protester Ray Epps told Jan. 6 committee 'crazy' conspiracy theories tore apart his life

Far-right members of Congress have suggested that the Trump supporter was actually a federal plant. Epps said the attack made him "ill."
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com
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Initially, it was but then it was, mysteriously and without explanation, removed. Why was that? It's because a lower-level FBI employee dutifully put Epps on the list and that employee was ordered to remove Epps from the list by a higher authority within the agency. Epps is a fed.
 
M1Gringo said:
Riiiiiight.

Ray Epps was on video in D.C. on the night of 1/5 imploring people to go "INTO" the Capitol. On 1/6 Epps was front-and-center directing the activities of many others.

You don't think it's odd that the J6 committee and the Washington Establishment's media goons at 60 Minutes praised Epps?
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I wasn't implying that he didn't participate in the insurrection. The conspiracy theory that he was an FBI agent has been debunked. He was and is a Trump supporter through and through.
 
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