It is not racist?
To you it is.
He didn't say that.
For your information, poverty disproportionately affects people of color.
What did he say?
Anyone who does not accept the universal right of adult citizens to vote should be the first to give up that right.
So these right-wing extremists who want to deprive poor people the right to vote, particularly poor people of color, should be first in line to give it up themselves.
Because every one should have a equal right to vote
No one on 8 pages of posts brought up race. No one. Until you.
So if we don't talk about hunger, everyone will be well-fed?
Slightly more people will be fed that way than if you make a law saying everyone has a right to be fed.
These beliefs are why I'm very happy with courts blocking majority rule where those laws are unconstitutional.
Children (dependents) don't. Is this an injustice?
There is no particularly compelling reason to suppose why such laws would be. The Founders, for example, imposed such restrictions on those who lived off of the public purse, and the States, per the Constitution, are authorized to determine eligibility to vote, with a few restrictions (Age, Race, Previous Condition of Servitude).
Mind you, I would agree that that is likely not how a judge would rule; but that would be an indictment of our judiciary, not the law itself.
So it's my girlfriend's fault no one would hire her full-time for four months after graduating from Louisville because she has a Master's degree and employers considered her over-qualified? That's nonsense. That wasn't her fault (and luckily she was able to get a part time job and live with her parents), but if she had gone on government assistence, she wouldn't have kicked anyone in the teeth, she would have been kicked in the teeth by society. Your position is incredibly insensitive and rather out of touch with reality. You seem to think a sustaining job exists for everyone who wants one. It doesn't.
So if we don't talk about hunger, everyone will be well-fed?
There is no particularly compelling reason to suppose why such laws would be. The Founders, for example, imposed such restrictions on those who lived off of the public purse, and the States, per the Constitution, are authorized to determine eligibility to vote, with a few restrictions (Age, Race, Previous Condition of Servitude).
Mind you, I would agree that that is likely not how a judge would rule; but that would be an indictment of our judiciary, not the law itself.
What are you talking about? You brought up race when in this conversation race is not an issue.
Race has nothing to do with poverty? Really? Man, I wish that were true.
Race has nothing to do with poverty? Really? Man, I wish that were true.
are you trying to say minorities are too stupid to provide for themselves?
Pretty sure he thinks that white people cant be poor.
Yea, white people are poor too. Look into it. There are poor people of every race. Do you have anything at all to support this race baiting idea of yours that people want to stop voting for minorities on welfare? Because the guy I heard was talking about people on welfare. All races. Not just some but all.
Wow, you're getting pretty emotional about this. Let's just look at this from a logical point-of-view, okay? From here, we see that in the year 2011:
-15% of Americans lived in poverty. Broken down by ethnicity, we have:
-12.2% of Asian Americans;
-25.3% of Hispanics;
-26.7% of African Americans;
live in poverty. So we clearly see that poverty disproportionately affects black and brown Americans.
Are you trolling me? Seriously the breakdown of percentage of poor by race has absolutely nothing to do with this thread. If you want to discuss that start a ****ing thread for that. This is about ALL welfare recipients losing their right to vote. Comprehension is a good skill. Look into that. Focus on the subject of the thread.
I was flipping around the radio yesterday and came across a guy named Michael Savage. He was pretty excited and screaming about "Why should those on welfare be allowed to vote". His point is simply that they are not paying taxes or making this country better so why should they have a say. Use the right to vote to encourage those lazy leeches to get off of their asses and get a job.
I had heard of this guy but I don't think I've ever listened to him before. I have heard Rush and Hannity before but this guy seemed extreme even in comparison to those guys. Who in their right mind would really suggest that the poor should not be allowed to vote. Taking power away from people and handing it solely to the upper classes. And he was talking about this should be one of the platforms of the Republican party.
What do you think?
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