Russell797
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No I did not read a paper written how many years ago when there were few states compared to today...
I do how eve see exactly the logic of why this is very much a states rights issue. You can cherry pick ancient papers written, but not accepted by our Federal Government, and it is just one mans opinion. Today it is clearly a States rights issue as to why the EC exists, and has for the history of our nation...
Again I ask you search out and find your Democrat who won the EC and lost the popular vote, witch has no meaning what so ever.... I know they exist, can't remember who. NPR is were this came up.
Or are you just another LAZY left winger?
It is far more to intellectually honest to say that Trump went after an Electoral College victory and he won it. Hillary failed in that category. Don't blame Trump. Blame Hillary.
Until a year ago the EC wasn't even on your "radar" map.
Do you have any evidence to support that claim of fact?
"They" believe their own imaginations. They are mind readers apparently....then again it's no surprise since more than one half the people believe in ghosts, spirits and the like.
Glad to see you also see it that way since it was the Founders who gave the mechanism for changing the Constitution in the first place - thus no person today who simply advocates a mechanical change could ever be accused of having CONTEMPT for the Constitution.
So he won because he gamed the system better than his opponent. Wonderful. That the system can be played like that to defeat the actual will of the people is disgusting.
Trump won in the EC - yes he did. And his victory was legal but illegitimate as the fatal flaw of the EC is that it permits an elite to overrule the will of the American people.
You're the type who would go down with the ship because that is what you are supposed to do. It's that attitude which permits discrimination against gays because the "good book" proclaims them sinners. Or those who deny biological evolution because it defies the word of god. Stubborn adherence to convention because someone said so is a dangerous way to behave...self imposed inflexibility is never a wise choice.
Slavery was always wrong from our modern day perspective. Woman should alway have had the right to vote from our perspective...blacks should not have to ride in the back of the bus from our perspective....those things were always wrong from our perspective...so is the EC. I don't really care what a bunch of long dead plantation owners from a bygone era had to say about the world as it pertains to our modern day society.
You do. You have contempt for the part about the EC. I hold no such contempt.
There you go again. You blame the rules that have been in place for two centuries. The fault, dear Brutus, does not lie in the stars, but in Hillary.
The rules have a fatal flaw in them which gives us a LEGAL President but can also render him ILLEGITIMATE when that mechanism from the 1700s thwarts the will of the people.
The rules have a fatal flaw in them which gives us a LEGAL President but can also render him ILLEGITIMATE when that mechanism from the 1700s thwarts the will of the people.
The United States is a representive republic. The EC insures that. That's why President Trump is the legitimate president.
Okay, so you hold contempt for the Constitution. Got it. :2razz:
I take him at his word. Walking into the dressing room at his beauty pageant is another one, and there were witnesses to that event. Were I come from most woman consider him a pig...a person who uses his power to intimidate and sexually harass...Complain to the boss? He is the boss. There are a great many men just like him, but without any shadow of a doubt he is one of them.
I think it is rather amusing if not downright funny.
The woman's perspective may be a little different after having been grabbed by the snatch! I wonder if he asked them if he could grab them that way? Powerful people have a way of intimidating other's that way you know..("they just let you do it"). Now, do we have iron clad proof of inappropriatness? No. If we did Trump would be charged. His attitude was clearly on display however..That's the type of guy he is...
It amazes me that the Bible belt could turn a blind eye to that.
Only your dishonest tactics here.
i'll go for the downright funny. Riders of the purple sage is a romance, and louis l'amour inspired star wars. George lucas is a big time l'amour fan, as is alan dean foster, both since their early teens. After all, stars wars is a space western.
So many opinions fail because they only develop after examining the superficial. Very little in this life is what it first appears to be.
So now you blame me. Wow! Hillary is the one you should be disappointed in.
Well it was back in the 1700's. A great deal has changed since then including Jacksonian Democracy.... the post Civil War democratic reforms .... the Progressive Movement and the laws changed by it .... and the establishment of one person/one vote. We are no longer the same system we had in the 1700's . All that has changed.
Today we are far far more of a representative democracy in both structure and in practice. The EC is a part of the old system that - much of it anyways - has gone with the wind.
omg!!!!!! :doh:roll::shock:
I blame you for intentionally and purposely perverting what I have said in order to pretend to score some points in your own head.
I guess you've never been backstage at a play or performance of any kind men and women routinely walk around in each other's dressing room or the common dressing room not a big deal. if he's guilty of a crime hanging if he's not you got to leave it alone so far he's not guilty of anything we still use the court system here right not the Lynch Mob
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