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ever hear of the great depression?
So then there must be some pictorial or statistical evidence of all these piles of emaciated senior citizens lining the sidewalks during the Depression?
Evidence, please. Any evidence at all?
Didn't think so.
Seniors were not starving in the streets. Did they suffer through the depression? Yes, but everyone else did, too.
"starving in the streets" is not meant to be literal.
as we moved away from a farm economy, nuclear families became more the norm. and yes, seniors DID suffer.
you don't know much about our history, do you?
"starving in the streets" is not meant to be literal.
I have a question for all those against SS and Medicare and Medicaid.
Do away with all of them ok...then what happens to the MILLIONS of people who get to old to work that never made enough to save for a pension and health benefits, please dont try and say thats their own fault unless you work in walmart full time and are able to live today and save a bundle for tomorrow. We are talking MILLIONS of people.
I have a question for all those against SS and Medicare and Medicaid.
Do away with all of them ok...then what happens to the MILLIONS of people who get to old to work that never made enough to save for a pension and health benefits, please dont try and say thats their own fault unless you work in walmart full time and are able to live today and save a bundle for tomorrow. We are talking MILLIONS of people.
You'd see a return to stronger family support for their elderly. As it should be. The government should not be doing what people should be doing for themselves and their own.
families used to be much larger. today, it's perfectly normal for people to be childless. what you say will happen, won't.
I am 21 and currently a full time student. Last year I was a full time student and working 30 hours a week at 9 dollars an hour. The MAJORITY of taxes taken out of my paycheck was SS. I will not see a penny of that money in my future. If I was given that money in my paycheck, I might have had money to save. But when you are already taking out a large percentage of my check and putting it somewhere I wont get it, you don't leave any room left for me to save on my own. My dad is currently supporting me, if it wasn't for him, I couldn't afford school, medicine, maybe even rent working full time. I look at how expensive things are and then look at my paycheck and wonder how people are supposed to make ends meet without the help of others. I think things need to DRASTICALLY change for those of us who are young will be able to live in the future. I do not need the government to help me retire, just give me my money so I can spend it as I need. If a person doesn't save let them live on the street. It is there fault.
Sort of like your bull**** fairy tale about seniors dying in the street?
Look, I understand that you've lived your life on the selfish promise made to you by your own generation or maybe the one before that you will get to live out your retirement as a second childhood snowbirding it back and forth to florida or in an RV or on some sailboat at the tax payers' expense. I get that.
But it's not my problem nor is it the treasury's problem. If you have to eat catfood into your 80's because you didn't make any other plan save to collect the dole from the government, that's your own problem. I am sure there are programs (and will continue to be programs) to assist lazy, thoughtless, ambitionless adults who coast into their senior years without a plan.
Get on one of those. Or work as a greeter at Walmart. Just stop driving the country deeper into debt with your selfishness.
You'd see a return to stronger family support for their elderly. As it should be. The government should not be doing what people should be doing for themselves and their own.
Everyone makes enough to save a little. Social Security was never meant to be what you live on. Just because people made it so doesn't mean they're doing the right thing. It's supposed to be supplemental to your own retirement funds.
In any case, phasing it out would most likely have to be done in intervals.
I feel your pain, but I am not going to let the government rob me. You have already decided that you won't see the money in the future... I consider that money a debt that the government has to repay me. The citizens can't have a lay down and take attitude like you have. I am not willing to let either party rob me. I'll demand to be repaid, and if neither party agrees with me, then neither party should be in power.
The problem is that if you continue to pay in they will rob you! You will not get that money back and you won't see any benefit from it. You will not be able to demand to be repaid because you don't have any legal grounds to contest it.
I don't have the attitude of lay down and cry. I have the attitude that NOTHING is getting done in this country.
The problem is that if you continue to pay in they will rob you! You will not get that money back and you won't see any benefit from it. You will not be able to demand to be repaid because you don't have any legal grounds to contest it.
I don't have the attitude of lay down and cry. I have the attitude that NOTHING is getting done in this country.
A massive population of impoverished people piling up bad debt in the economy and defaulting on their debts will be your problem...
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