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Orion's just quacking standard Kanuckistani anti-American drivel.
As if you are so enlightened, please. Where is your enlightened compassion for the folk who are at greater risk due to this persons treason. There is nothing "primitive" here.
Hmm you do know that first the wiki-leaker is Australian and hence cant be charged for treason in the US.
Now the US citizen that gave him the material could be, but guessing that he is white and in the military, then that wont happen. Funny how all the anger has been thrown the Australian but not a peep on the US solider that gave him the information.
NO, of course not...where does this insanity end?Should the wiki-leaker, the moron in the military that leaked the docs to wiki-leaks, be executed for treason?
Yes?
No?
Should the wiki-leaker, the moron in the military that leaked the docs to wiki-leaks, be executed for treason?
Yes?
No?
Give him the same punishment that I. "Scooter" Libby got.
Hmm you do know that first the wiki-leaker is Australian and hence cant be charged for treason in the US.
Now the US citizen that gave him the material could be, but guessing that he is white and in the military, then that wont happen. Funny how all the anger has been thrown the Australian but not a peep on the US solider that gave him the information.
How so? I'm pretty sure it's treason.
Treason was specifically defined in the United States Constitution, the only crime so defined. Article III Section 3 delineates treason as follows:
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.
However, Congress has, at times, passed statutes creating related offenses that undermine the government or the national security, such as sedition in the 1798 Alien and Sedition Acts, or espionage and sedition in the 1917 Espionage Act, which do not require the testimony of two witnesses and have a much broader definition than Article Three treason. For example, some well-known spies have been convicted of espionage rather than treason.”
This thread has been illuminating for the lack of reading comprehension.
I think the OP was pretty clear (but I guess folks read the headline only), and then clarified a few posts down... THIS IS ABOUT THE MILITARY DWEEB THAT LEAKED TO WIKI-LEAKS... not the scum from Australia trying to hide in Sweden.
Phew.
eace
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He's not merely a spy... he swore to defend and protect this country and instead sold us out and jeopardized our security. That's betrayal, which is treason.
I think he should be made an example of and executed. If not now... when?
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"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God." (Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962).
"I, _____ (SSAN), having been appointed an officer in the Army of the United States, as indicated above in the grade of _____ do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservations or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter; So help me God." (DA Form 71, 1 August 1959, for officers.)
No, I mean Libby. Fitzgerald was satisfied that Richard Armitage didn't have an agenda for leaking Plame's identity. And to be clear, it wasn't Fitzgerald's mission to find anyone guilty of any law. His mission was to find out the "why" her identity was leaked. He stated that very clearly on the day Libby was indicted.I believe you must mean Richard Armitage.
Incorrect on the bolded part. He swore an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States from all enemies, foreign and domestic, while bearing true faith to the same.
http://www.history.army.mil/faq/oaths.htm
Since this isn't a declared war, he is fulfilling his obligation to support and defend the Constitution by informing the People of the violations of the oath of office taken by every civilian government official.
Hmm you do know that first the wiki-leaker is Australian and hence cant be charged for treason in the US.
Now the US citizen that gave him the material could be, but guessing that he is white and in the military, then that wont happen. Funny how all the anger has been thrown the Australian but not a peep on the US solider that gave him the information.
Declared, not declared... doesn't matter... these are national security secrets.
I'd love to see his defense try that tact... it'd be a suicide mission.
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I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.
Should the wiki-leaker, the moron in the military that leaked the docs to wiki-leaks, be executed for treason?
Yes?
No?
No, I mean Libby. Fitzgerald was satisfied that Richard Armitage didn't have an agenda for leaking Plame's identity. And to be clear, it wasn't Fitzgerald's mission to find anyone guilty of any law. His mission was to find out the "why" her identity was leaked. He stated that very clearly on the day Libby was indicted.
You know what I don't understand: if they WERE classified then WHY is it still "OK" for him to release the documents (yes, even after they've been altered)
Why aren't they stepping in and halting his actions?
I have no use for the guy, I hope he never sees the light of day again, but executing him seems to be going a bit far to my mind.
I have no use for the guy, I hope he never sees the light of day again, but executing him seems to be going a bit far to my mind.
we used to find propaganda videos that AQI would make of the children of local notables whom they suspected of working with us. they would tape them begging, pleading, screaming for their parents to save them, stop working for the Americans, etc and so forth, as they were taken apart piece by piece, and then scattered across the city, piece by piece.
children.
this guy has potentially doomed hundreds if not thousands of innocents to the same fate. being executed by a bullet is better than he deserves.
we used to find propaganda videos that AQI would make of the children of local notables whom they suspected of working with us. they would tape them begging, pleading, screaming for their parents to save them, stop working for the Americans, etc and so forth, as they were taken apart piece by piece, and then scattered across the city, piece by piece.
children.
this guy has potentially doomed hundreds if not thousands of innocents to the same fate. being executed by a bullet is better than he deserves.
we used to find propaganda videos that AQI would make of the children of local notables whom they suspected of working with us. they would tape them begging, pleading, screaming for their parents to save them, stop working for the Americans, etc and so forth, as they were taken apart piece by piece, and then scattered across the city, piece by piece.
children.
this guy has potentially doomed hundreds if not thousands of innocents to the same fate. being executed by a bullet is better than he deserves.
we used to find propaganda videos that AQI would make of the children of local notables whom they suspected of working with us. they would tape them begging, pleading, screaming for their parents to save them, stop working for the Americans, etc and so forth, as they were taken apart piece by piece, and then scattered across the city, piece by piece.
children.
this guy has potentially doomed hundreds if not thousands of innocents to the same fate. being executed by a bullet is better than he deserves.
Hmm you do know that first the wiki-leaker is Australian and hence cant be charged for treason in the US.
Now the US citizen that gave him the material could be, but guessing that he is white and in the military, then that wont happen. Funny how all the anger has been thrown the Australian but not a peep on the US solider that gave him the information.
Hmmm...An Australian using real information against the US government. Is it any different than the Australian who uses misinformation on a daily basis to overthrow our government?
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