Compare that with this:
In the need to develop a capacity to know what potential enemies are doing, the United States government has perfected a technological capability that enables us to monitor the messages that go through the air. Now, that is necessary and important to the United States as we look abroad at enemies or potential enemies. We must know, at the same time, that capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left such is the capability to monitor everything—telephone conversations, telegrams, it doesn't matter. There would be no place to hide.
If this government ever became a tyrant, if a dictator ever took charge in this country, the technological capacity that the intelligence community has given the government could enable it to impose total tyranny, and there would be no way to fight back because the most careful effort to combine together in resistance to the government, no matter how privately it was done, is within the reach of the government to know. Such is the capability of this technology.
Church Committee - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
WOW! Back as far as 1975 that was acknowledged. Now it seems we are getting there, and what is even more disturbing is that people don't seem to be the least bit concerned. One of these days, it will get so bad that people will have to go hide in the jungles like animals to escape very cruel, technically sophisticated tyrants.
Yes, I agree, that's the problem. Just look at the numbers of people that are indifferent to this. Hey, if you're not misbehaving, you have nothing to fear from the surveillance state. I don't get people, really, I truly don't.
Part of it is that people are scared. It used to be a guy could reasonably expect to has his same job until he retired. Things are just not like that anymore. People must constantly work under the threat of being unemployed, because, among other things, many jobs have been outsourced overseas. As such, they are to scared to speak out or question things. I can't remember exactly what fast food chain it was, but a few years ago it sent out a notice to employees threatening that if the voted for a specific candidate, they would likely lose their jobs. That's the type of thing people must contend with now.
Part of it is that people are scared. It used to be a guy could reasonably expect to has his same job until he retired. Things are just not like that anymore. People must constantly work under the threat of being unemployed, because, among other things, many jobs have been outsourced overseas. As such, they are to scared to speak out or question things. I can't remember exactly what fast food chain it was, but a few years ago it sent out a notice to employees threatening that if the voted for a specific candidate, they would likely lose their jobs. That's the type of thing people must contend with now.
Again, this is glaring
Damn! I hope that guy never makes it to the Supreme Court. Imagine Scalia, Thomas, and Sunstein. WOW!!!!
Part of it is that people are scared. It used to be a guy could reasonably expect to has his same job until he retired. Things are just not like that anymore. People must constantly work under the threat of being unemployed, because, among other things, many jobs have been outsourced overseas. As such, they are to scared to speak out or question things. I can't remember exactly what fast food chain it was, but a few years ago it sent out a notice to employees threatening that if the voted for a specific candidate, they would likely lose their jobs. That's the type of thing people must contend with now.
Are you kidding me. A fast food chain put that in writing!!!!
I don't recall it being a fast food chain, but I remember hearing about that incident.
David Siegel is the founder and CEO of Westgate Resorts, a huge national timeshare company and one of the largest resort developers in the world. In 2007 he was a billionaire, although he may be only a hundred-millionaire now. He and his wife Jackie were the subjects of the recent documentary "The Queen of Versailles," about their ongoing quest to build the largest house in America, a 90,000 square foot monument to excess. And yesterday, David Siegel sent an email to all of his thousands of employees, in which he—in a veiled way—insinuated that they would be fired of Barack Obama is reelected.
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A handful of McDonald's employees in northeastern Ohio received handbills in their most recent paychecks suggesting they vote for three Republican candidates.
"If the right people are elected we will be able to continue with raises and benefits at or above our present levels," the insert said. "If others are elected we will not."
The fast food chain's corporate headquarters in Oak Brook, Ill., distanced itself from the action by Canton franchisee Paul Siegfried, saying it was not reflective of the company's position.
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I don't recall it being a fast food chain, but I remember hearing about that incident.
Was it Papa John's threatening job losses if Obama won another election?
The government should ban 90% of itself and then STFU forever.Here's some background on Cass Sunstein
In addition, Mr Sunstein has been under consideration by the Obama administration as a possible Supreme Court Justice.
Sunstein co-authored a book that suggested the following
Cass Sunstein - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Amazing! Tax people who put forward conspiracy theories!
Any rate, that aside, what do you think? Should the government ban conspiracy theorizing?
Well, there were a couple of incidents, and I probably merged them in my memory, but here is one
He didn't directly say it, but he hinted at it.
The CEO Who Built Himself America's Largest House Just Threatened to Fire His Employees if Obama's Elected
Now this happened to some employees at a McDonalds
Ohio McDonald's Gives Voting Advice in Paychecks - CBS News
Here's an article about it
Employers increasingly telling employees workers how to vote
Here's some background on Cass Sunstein
In addition, Mr Sunstein has been under consideration by the Obama administration as a possible Supreme Court Justice.
Sunstein co-authored a book that suggested the following
Cass Sunstein - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Amazing! Tax people who put forward conspiracy theories!
Any rate, that aside, what do you think? Should the government ban conspiracy theorizing?
Sorry Charlie! What you forgot was this
http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/219858-should-government-ban-conspiracy-theorizing-2.html#post1064446822
That is not a dishonest summary of what was said.
The author described censorship asThe fact is that what you posted was simply not true. You said that
...imagining hypothetical situations...That is simply not the case. What he does is list a number of the actions that the government might take, including banning conspiracy theorizing, and discusses what he thinks the results might be. With regards to banning conspiracy theorizing, although he does say it MIGHT be self defeating, he clearly says the he can imagine a scenario where it becomes thinkable.
Attack conspiracy theories with truth and reason, not force.
Your posts are dishonest. When people point out that he never suggests banning CT's, you refute that even though it is true.
Your posts are bull****. He clearly says he could imagine a scenario where it is thinkable.
...imagining hypothetical situations...
And I could imagine a scenario where it rains tomorrow
Doesn't mean I want it to rain.
Can you imagine a scenario where the government would cut your tongue out in public to silence you?
Yes. Only a fool would not be able to do so.
Really? Under what circumstances would the government do so?
If the govt was led by an authoritarian.
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