Devil505
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This is either a basement thread or a conspiracy theory thread....
you once again lied about the protests based on your lieberal talking points. this is a conspiracy thread.
You are 100% wrong. I made no claims of proof but merely asked a "What If?" question.
Is your side so scared of the truth that you can't even abide a legitimate question?
What are you so afraid of?
How about answering my question?
What if Obama REALLY did the gay sex and smoked the crack.... :roll:
Sleaze charge: 'I took drugs, had homo sex with Obama'
This thread merely asks the question of whether or not such fake protests (from either side of the aisle) fall under Freedom of Speech protections or violate same, IF proven to be faked.
How is that NOT a legitimate & timely question?
Since I & many others feel that the shouting protest at many health care rallies is being orchestrated, & appears designed to prevent the American voter from hearing the other side of the issue, I ask the above poll question.
Whether or not our suspicions (including those of press Sec Gibbs at today's briefing C-SPAN | Capitol Hill, The White House and National Politics) prove to be true, my poll question remains.
The last option should read: If fake, (operatives proven to be merely "Posing" as concerned citizens while actually being paid money for the purpose of inhibiting free speech) protesters & their masters should be prosecuted.
The issue is you are implying that the protests are some how false, fake, a fraud that they are not serious about the position they take, and that it would be a good thing if these people were arrested since they could not be real. If you want to go there how does one determine that the speech is fake? And you are targeting people who help organize protests as if real protests have no organization at all. I doubt that there has been any protests that were not a riot that had some organization and yes that includes trasportation of some of the protesters. Protest does require organization it is not spontaneous. You are just trying to work around the 1st Amendment. Your proposal mean Civil War.
Before I vote, I would like to get some clarification:
Are you asking is it legal to protest a protest? -- In other words, be as loud and disruptive as possible at a public protest? Or crash a Townhall with the intent of doing the same?
It's a free country so everyone has the right to be an asshole if they so choose? Which is why disturbing the peace and public nuisance laws exist. Used properly, they allow police to arrest assholes set on disrupting and irritating others. They should just call those laws 'one count of asshole' or 'mouthing off to cop in the lamest degree'.
Generally, I think each side should be give a time and place to hold up their signs and get up on their soapbox. If one side decides to crash--disrupt and otherwise irritate and annoy a lawful protest, then call the cops and let them cool off in jail for a few hours. I've known a few people who were cured of their asshole tendencies with a few hours in jail.
I agree with your thoughts. Protests should be legal UNLESS they cross the line & deliberately create a public nuisance for the very purpose of drowning out the free speech of those they oppose.
Then, the police should remove the protesters.
(my poll takes that one further step which is that I feel that if a protester is really a paid operative (from any side) creating a loud nuisance for the purpose of stopping free speech, he or she should be prosecuted along with the group/organization that hired him/her.)
I agree--though that's a hard thing to prove.
Since I & many others feel that the shouting protest at many health care rallies is being orchestrated, & appears designed to prevent the American voter from hearing the other side of the issue, I ask the above poll question.
Whether or not our suspicions (including those of press Sec Gibbs at today's briefing C-SPAN | Capitol Hill, The White House and National Politics) prove to be true, my poll question remains.
The last option should read: If fake, (operatives proven to be merely "Posing" as concerned citizens while actually being paid money for the purpose of inhibiting free speech) protesters & their masters should be prosecuted.
Prosecuted for what? Lying about your political opinion isn't illegal
No...I'm simply asking a legitimate & timely question as to how far a citzen's first amendment rights extend. There are limits .....& should deliberately inhibiting the free speech of others, as a paid operative, be protected .....or is that a very un-democratic (small "D") act, dangerous to a democracy?
The correct answer is that NO ONE should be allowed to disrupt a public gathering someone else has organized. Anyone who doesn't have the maturity to allow the speaker his time and wait to ask questions should rightfully be arrested for creating a public nuisance. No one has a right to use their "freedom" of speech to deny others theirs.
Doesn't matter if it's "organized protest" or "spontaneous outrage".
Period.
End of discussion.
However, Congressmen aren't people and therefore can be tarred and feathered at whim.
I agree completely, but it appears that the police are not "Keeping The Peace" in many of these instances & I wonder why not??
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